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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | I loved both all the cremellos I've ever been on. What I dislike is the fact they stain easily- you can't just "curry" it off like on a bay. And they BURN maybe ours were just dumb and stayed in the sun, but they burn without sunscreen and fly masks. Pink skin and sun=skin cancer | |
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Location: Texas | We have one that we bred and raised (14 yrs old). I actually tried to sell him a couple of different times as a youngster, but nobody wanted him due to his color. His eyes are both glass blue. Skin is pink. He is what I call "thin-skinned" because he requires fleece cinches, fleece or felt lined breast collars, wool or fleece pad ,etc. It's easy to "ride the hair off" of him. He will sunburn if tied to the trailer or on gravel parking lots for hot part of the day, so I don't do that. (even his belly and sheath will burn from reflection). He rubs his fly mask off out in the pasture, so it doesn't help to turn him out with one. We do have lots of trees, so he spends a lot of time in the shade. He has great feet! He is a super pain the the @$$ to clean & keep clean, but he is stunning when he is clean. He was born here and will surely die here. We love him in spite of his color, but I would not ever have another. | |
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| tracies - 2015-01-22 5:03 PM
We have one that we bred and raised (14 yrs old). I actually tried to sell him a couple of different times as a youngster, but nobody wanted him due to his color. His eyes are both glass blue. Skin is pink. He is what I call "thin-skinned" because he requires fleece cinches, fleece or felt lined breast collars, wool or fleece pad ,etc. It's easy to "ride the hair off" of him. He will sunburn if tied to the trailer or on gravel parking lots for hot part of the day, so I don't do that. (even his belly and sheath will burn from reflection). He rubs his fly mask off out in the pasture, so it doesn't help to turn him out with one. We do have lots of trees, so he spends a lot of time in the shade. He has great feet! He is a super pain the the @$$ to clean & keep clean, but he is stunning when he is clean. He was born here and will surely die here. We love him in spite of his color, but I would not ever have another.
Never really been a fan but I do have a question on the genetics and defects if anyone can answer it:
When breeding for a double dilute offspring (crossing a palomino with a buckskin), is there a greater chance of having hearing and eye defects like there is in dogs?
Can you breed two double dilute parents (crossing cremello with perlino) without increasing the chances of defects? | |
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Location: Texas | I would like to know too that's a good question ^ thanks y'all so far y'all have very helpful information :) | |
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Location: Texas | cyount2009 - 2015-01-22 5:33 PM tracies - 2015-01-22 5:03 PM We have one that we bred and raised (14 yrs old). I actually tried to sell him a couple of different times as a youngster, but nobody wanted him due to his color. His eyes are both glass blue. Skin is pink. He is what I call "thin-skinned" because he requires fleece cinches, fleece or felt lined breast collars, wool or fleece pad ,etc. It's easy to "ride the hair off" of him. He will sunburn if tied to the trailer or on gravel parking lots for hot part of the day, so I don't do that. (even his belly and sheath will burn from reflection). He rubs his fly mask off out in the pasture, so it doesn't help to turn him out with one. We do have lots of trees, so he spends a lot of time in the shade. He has great feet! He is a super pain the the @$$ to clean & keep clean, but he is stunning when he is clean. He was born here and will surely die here. We love him in spite of his color, but I would not ever have another. Never really been a fan but I do have a question on the genetics and defects if anyone can answer it: When breeding for a double dilute offspring (crossing a palomino with a buckskin ), is there a greater chance of having hearing and eye defects like there is in dogs? Can you breed two double dilute parents (crossing cremello with perlino ) without increasing the chances of defects?
I am not 100% confident in my answer, but I THINK that Cr x Cr breeding produces cremello 100% of the time. This is a good resource http://www.animalgenetics.us/Equine/Coat_Color/Index.asp
and I do not think that there is any increase in hearing and eye defects. | |
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| I had one. Never worried about sun burn and did nothing to protect him from the sun....however I do NOT live in the South where the sun is a bit stronger than here. Most of the time I just sprayed him off, no soap. But if I did use soap, the cleaner I got him, the yellower he looked, and the more the stripe on his face stood out.
He was a good looking horse, and I had a pretty good, documented record on him in barrels and poles. I put him up for sale and got no tire kickers. a friend told me it was because of his color. I rewrote the add with the same info EXCEPT his color and got many inquiries on him, but no one came out to look after I sent pics or told him his color. Never would have guessed it. This WAS before the AQHA allowed them to be registered. I thought that being able to register them would help in selling them but it sounds like that may not be the case.
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Location: Central Texas | It's interesting reading the various experiences and opinions. I have had a couple of cremellos and perlinos and I like the colors. I had them in the desert with very little shade and had no issues with them. My Paints had some problems with sunburn, but not the double dilutes. I had some sorrel quarter horses that would sunburn on their white blazes. I now live in east central TX and just a few months ago I bought a grey gelding off the track and turned him out in the pasture and he sunburned. I blame his on having always being stalled previously. | |
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Location: North Dakota | rodeoveteran - 2015-01-23 11:17 AM I had one. Never worried about sun burn and did nothing to protect him from the sun....however I do NOT live in the South where the sun is a bit stronger than here. Most of the time I just sprayed him off, no soap. But if I did use soap, the cleaner I got him, the yellower he looked, and the more the stripe on his face stood out. He was a good looking horse, and I had a pretty good, documented record on him in barrels and poles. I put him up for sale and got no tire kickers. a friend told me it was because of his color. I rewrote the add with the same info EXCEPT his color and got many inquiries on him, but no one came out to look after I sent pics or told him his color. Never would have guessed it. This WAS before the AQHA allowed them to be registered. I thought that being able to register them would help in selling them but it sounds like that may not be the case. If a horse had the talent I want, then I would not care what color it is.
Those people are crazy. I'd have been on him like white on rice. | |
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Location: Around here somewhere... | I live in NM, land of lots of sun... Never had one of my double dilutes need any protection from the sun, or need any sort of special care. I've had pintos that had to wear sunscreen and fly masks, and have had a couple of dark colored horses who needed special cinches or they'd get raw spots. Some horses are thinner skinned, and I have not found that to be related to any of my horses colors. | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | tracies - 2015-01-22 7:31 PM cyount2009 - 2015-01-22 5:33 PM tracies - 2015-01-22 5:03 PM We have one that we bred and raised (14 yrs old). I actually tried to sell him a couple of different times as a youngster, but nobody wanted him due to his color. His eyes are both glass blue. Skin is pink. He is what I call "thin-skinned" because he requires fleece cinches, fleece or felt lined breast collars, wool or fleece pad ,etc. It's easy to "ride the hair off" of him. He will sunburn if tied to the trailer or on gravel parking lots for hot part of the day, so I don't do that. (even his belly and sheath will burn from reflection). He rubs his fly mask off out in the pasture, so it doesn't help to turn him out with one. We do have lots of trees, so he spends a lot of time in the shade. He has great feet! He is a super pain the the @$$ to clean & keep clean, but he is stunning when he is clean. He was born here and will surely die here. We love him in spite of his color, but I would not ever have another. Never really been a fan but I do have a question on the genetics and defects if anyone can answer it: When breeding for a double dilute offspring (crossing a palomino with a buckskin ), is there a greater chance of having hearing and eye defects like there is in dogs? Can you breed two double dilute parents (crossing cremello with perlino ) without increasing the chances of defects? http://www.animalgenetics.us/Equine/Coat_Color/Index.asp
and I do not think that there is any increase in hearing and eye defects.
Single copy cream on a single copy cream horse will produce 25% double cream (cremello or perlino), 50% single copy cream (smokey black, palomino, buckskin, etc...) and 25% other colors (bay, red, black, whatever the base color of the babies would be without the presence of the cream gene.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the problems with hearing are from one of the white spotting genes in horses. I know that austrailian shepards that have the merle color pattern are often deaf if they have too much white on them. It's similar in affect to one of the horse spotting genes. | |
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