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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | I WANT TO KNOW what else there is to consider besides the obvious- things you don't find out about until you are standing a stud of your own. What have you learned as a stud owner with a stud standing to the public? I want to know everything to consider it all as a whole! What about standing one at a stallion station- how does that work?
I have a colt I am seriously leaving a stud to see if her performs well- if he doesn't he will be gelded. He has an EXCELLENT MIND, Good conformation, AN AMAZING dam that was a 1D horse herself she is a 7/8 sibling to a very big name barrel sire, his sire is AAA and a producer both on the track- and in the barrel pen. If I decide to give him a shot at keeping his jewels he will be sent to a reputable futurity trainer that has had success with similar breeding and horses by his sire- he will be futuritied as a 5yo.
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 Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
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Location: Texas | Do you mind sharing his papers? I'm just curious
I have very limited experience with studs, but i'm interested in hearing others experiences.. Having a good mind would be my top priority, no animal is worth keeping a stud if they are crazy/dangerous. I think you have a good plan for the horse and sounds like you are thinking about the whole picture not just yourself.. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Ok, I know this is going to sound like a lot of negative info, but it's HONEST info, things you need to know and be aware of. Especially if this is your first ball game. It is rewarding to see your babies do well but getting them there will make you gray headed.
People are crazy...seriously...think about this.
They'll try to bring you mares that aren't even halter broke. Unhalter broke with a baby on their hip is my favorite!....can you see the sarcasm? Don't want to ultrasound before you ship semen. They get mad because you only ship on MWF or T, Th; take your pick. Want to pay half the stud fee here and half there and the other half when registration is due. Want a discount because their horse is a great great great great granddaughter of a nephew of I-did-something-great-once. They'll have much older 'own daughter' mares who have never had babies....and know nothing about taking care of a bred mare much less an older one.
Mares will try to kick your head off if you're live covering, be ill tempered, try to chew your barn down..
Everyone who wants a baby horse, wants to breed to your stud, even though they don't want to pay or have any business even attempting to raisse a baby. I'm good friends with my neighbor, house sit for him a lot when he and his wife are out of town. He's got 2 spotted saddle mares, he wants me to breed them so bad he can't stand it....smh.
People will want 47 different pics of 47 different angles and then tell you what's wrong with your horse.
They'll ask the same question over and over after you've explained it until you're blue in the face. For example, why was your stud never broke? Because he broke his leg as a yearling and has 3 screws in his femur......so why isn't he broke again???
People will judge...and they are HARSH...
They'll question your stud fee, try to haggle you on $$$. Forget the fact that you paid for the 5 panel test, the incentives your boy is enrolled in...they want their discount!!
Gotta have an iron clad stud contract that covers your butt.
It really doesn't matter how well bred your horse is, there are 54913468315647646163543135435 barrel studs in the US...this one has color....that one will give me a discount....you get the idea...
When you have an honest, legit mare owner who knows their stuff, it's great but there are hitches there from time to time as well. Fedex looses your shipment...that one really stinks..
You HAVE to be aware of what he's doing and what he's thinking at all times. Stay 2 steps ahead of him. Keep his attitude in check. Know that some jerk will ride up on you in a mare in heat in a public place...to see if they get a reaction..
Gotta have good fences...
Advertising is NOT cheap...
Might want to check your home owners insurance. Some companies, Farm Bureau for one, puts a stud horse in the same category as a pit bull. Something happens, insurance won't cover it.
Be aware that heart ache is a factor...You'll lose babies and that SUCKS...
Seeing those little boogers on the ultrasound is a great feeling.
Once that first baby HITS and does well, then things pick up and get a little better...but that takes time...and time is $$$.
I'm blessed to have an awesome stud, he's a one of a kind in my book and to be perfectly honest I mainly breed him to my own mares so I totally monopolize his merchandise :) plus people are crazy...did I mention that?
Breeding good mares and dealing with great people is always a blessing but you have to remember it's business.
It's a labor of love for sure. Not a glamorous job by any means. Don't go into it thinking you are going to get rich. lol
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| I have a stud.. And in my opinion he better be **** well minded.. to be able to handle all the hoopla at a race.. I've hauled mine since he was 2 and stuff still gets to him sometimes.. I couldn't futurity him last year because my mom got cancer I'm in school and I work so he got put on the back burner so that's a ding against him in respect to people wanting to breed to him, and I'm fine with that.. I could honestly care less if I ever breed an outside mare.. You contontrol where those first baby's go for training and if they are great people will want them and there is your supply and demand curve..
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | aqhabarrelchic1 - 2015-02-05 9:42 PM
I have a stud.. And in my opinion he better be **** well minded.. to be able to handle all the hoopla at a race.. I've hauled mine since he was 2 and stuff still gets to him sometimes.. I couldn't futurity him last year because my mom got cancer I'm in school and I work so he got put on the back burner so that's a ding against him in respect to people wanting to breed to him, and I'm fine with that.. I could honestly care less if I ever breed an outside mare.. You cont where those first baby's go for training and if they are great people will want them and there is your supply and demand curve..
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Miss Not Exciting
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| Make sure you have the facilities to handle him. As he ages and matures his "attitude" may change especially when you are not around and nature is working. |
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Location: LaBelle, Florida | Mare owners are CRAZY!
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Location: SE Louisiana | This is NOT hard to understand. a stallion has a 2 track mind... Gra$$ and a$$.... |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Leo - 2015-02-05 8:25 PM Ok, I know this is going to sound like a lot of negative info, but it's HONEST info, things you need to know and be aware of. Especially if this is your first ball game. It is rewarding to see your babies do well but getting them there will make you gray headed. People are crazy...seriously...think about this. They'll try to bring you mares that aren't even halter broke. Unhalter broke with a baby on their hip is my favorite!....can you see the sarcasm? Don't want to ultrasound before you ship semen. They get mad because you only ship on MWF or T, Th; take your pick. Want to pay half the stud fee here and half there and the other half when registration is due. Want a discount because their horse is a great great great great granddaughter of a nephew of I-did-something-great-once. They'll have much older 'own daughter' mares who have never had babies....and know nothing about taking care of a bred mare much less an older one. Mares will try to kick your head off if you're live covering, be ill tempered, try to chew your barn down.. Everyone who wants a baby horse, wants to breed to your stud, even though they don't want to pay or have any business even attempting to raisse a baby. I'm good friends with my neighbor, house sit for him a lot when he and his wife are out of town. He's got 2 spotted saddle mares, he wants me to breed them so bad he can't stand it....smh. People will want 47 different pics of 47 different angles and then tell you what's wrong with your horse. They'll ask the same question over and over after you've explained it until you're blue in the face. For example, why was your stud never broke? Because he broke his leg as a yearling and has 3 screws in his femur......so why isn't he broke again??? People will judge...and they are HARSH... They'll question your stud fee, try to haggle you on $$$. Forget the fact that you paid for the 5 panel test, the incentives your boy is enrolled in...they want their discount!! Gotta have an iron clad stud contract that covers your butt. It really doesn't matter how well bred your horse is, there are 54913468315647646163543135435 barrel studs in the US...this one has color....that one will give me a discount....you get the idea... When you have an honest, legit mare owner who knows their stuff, it's great but there are hitches there from time to time as well. Fedex looses your shipment...that one really stinks.. You HAVE to be aware of what he's doing and what he's thinking at all times. Stay 2 steps ahead of him. Keep his attitude in check. Know that some jerk will ride up on you in a mare in heat in a public place...to see if they get a reaction.. Gotta have good fences... Advertising is NOT cheap... Might want to check your home owners insurance. Some companies, Farm Bureau for one, puts a stud horse in the same category as a pit bull. Something happens, insurance won't cover it. Be aware that heart ache is a factor...You'll lose babies and that SUCKS... Seeing those little boogers on the ultrasound is a great feeling. Once that first baby HITS and does well, then things pick up and get a little better...but that takes time...and time is $$$. I'm blessed to have an awesome stud, he's a one of a kind in my book and to be perfectly honest I mainly breed him to my own mares so I totally monopolize his merchandise :) plus people are crazy...did I mention that? Breeding good mares and dealing with great people is always a blessing but you have to remember it's business. It's a labor of love for sure. Not a glamorous job by any means. Don't go into it thinking you are going to get rich. lol With 22 likes I'd say this pretty much says it all.
We got Slim because we had all of the mares and it was pretty expensive to get them all bred with stud fees and all the expenses that come along with getting a mare bred. We are consistently able to put him on anything and know we're going to get a nice baby every year. In his first foal crop his 4 yr olds of 3 foals he has a 1d barrel horse mare and a gelding won a stakes race or the WY All Breed Derby this last year by 4 lengths. Owning a stud is definitely a commitment and to promote him to the public takes alot of time and money, especially if you go 'nationally'. If you want to own a stud for your own mares and he consistently produces nice babies word gets around on a local level if you're content with that.
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | komet. - 2015-02-06 9:40 PM This is NOT hard to understand. a stallion has a 2 track mind... Gra$$ and a$$....
LOL that one's going in the future use vault. |
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