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                      Location: Here | RunningOnPaints - 2015-02-17 2:03 PM I have NO idea what feed to switch to... It was so DANG hard to get my " problem" horse on a feed... ok... I've read everything... and I'm really confused and have NO idea what to put my mare on now... She is HYPP ... she can't have alfafa, molasses, has to be LOW starch, and a long list of " other stuff she can't have" I've looked into all the speciality feeds for HYPP horses and the levels are to much for her... Guess I'm starting from scratch.... b/c I've have literally tried / looked into all the feeds out there... prior to going with ADM...
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=459551&start=1 |
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       Location: USA | RunningOnPaints - 2015-02-17 2:03 PM
I have NO idea what feed to switch to... It was so DANG hard to get my " problem" horse on a feed...
ok... I've read everything... and I'm really confused and have NO idea what to put my mare on now...
She is HYPP ... she can't have alfafa, molasses, has to be LOW starch, and a long list of " other stuff she can't have"
I've looked into all the speciality feeds for HYPP horses and the levels are to much for her...
Guess I'm starting from scratch.... b/c I've have literally tried / looked into all the feeds out there...
prior to going with ADM...
What about Renew Gold? |
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    Location: Mansfield, Tx | Thanks... I'll have to go look into to them... |
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       Location: your guess is as good as mine | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-15 7:45 PM darchick - 2015-02-15 7:15 PM GLP - 2015-02-15 6:18 PM Nope, I am not buying any more GroStrong minerals either. I am looking for a new vitamin/ mineral supplement now. I hate to because I really liked their product. Are the minerals possibly contaminated? I just ordered some GroStrong Mineral Blocks but haven't picked them up yet. I haven't read all 30 something pages on the feed issue, so can someone educate me? They do make a medicated mineral. Can't tell you if yours is at risk tho. I won't continue to support a company that would lie to someone about their feed being contaminated, regardless of how much I like the product. That's what got me...ADM basically calling the horse owners, vets, & testing labs liars and the evidence "baseless accusations." So even though the GLO line has not (as far as I know) been affected I dumped over 150# of SeniorGLO and PrimeGLO in the ditch outside of my pasture & will be mailing back the GroStrong block and bag of HealthyGLO I had ordered. Mine are back on Safechoice Senior for the moment (since that's what they were eating prior to the switch - checked with Nutrena to make sure the mill my feed store gets it from is ionophore-free) and will be making the transition to Bluebonnet in the near future. For me it's too much like playing Russian Roulette...testing the feed only tells you that the portion they selected was OK. You can have a portion test clear and a portion test "hot" in the exact same batch. Add to that the FDA actually has an allowable content limit of monesin for horse feed...and even if they are produced through separate lines are they carried in separate, dedicated trucks? No thanks...
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     Location: N Texas | ghost rider - 2015-02-17 4:20 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-15 7:45 PM darchick - 2015-02-15 7:15 PM GLP - 2015-02-15 6:18 PM Nope, I am not buying any more GroStrong minerals either. I am looking for a new vitamin/ mineral supplement now. I hate to because I really liked their product. Are the minerals possibly contaminated? I just ordered some GroStrong Mineral Blocks but haven't picked them up yet. I haven't read all 30 something pages on the feed issue, so can someone educate me? They do make a medicated mineral. Can't tell you if yours is at risk tho. I won't continue to support a company that would lie to someone about their feed being contaminated, regardless of how much I like the product. That's what got me...ADM basically calling the horse owners, vets, & testing labs liars and the evidence "baseless accusations." So even though the GLO line has not (as far as I know) been affected I dumped over 150# of SeniorGLO and PrimeGLO in the ditch outside of my pasture & will be mailing back the GroStrong block and bag of HealthyGLO I had ordered. Mine are back on Safechoice Senior for the moment (since that's what they were eating prior to the switch - checked with Nutrena to make sure the mill my feed store gets it from is ionophore-free) and will be making the transition to Bluebonnet in the near future. For me it's too much like playing Russian Roulette...testing the feed only tells you that the portion they selected was OK. You can have a portion test clear and a portion test "hot" in the exact same batch. Add to that the FDA actually has an allowable content limit of monesin for horse feed...and even if they are produced through separate lines are they carried in separate, dedicated trucks? No thanks...
The rep I talked to tried to tell me that if a sample tested safe, that meant the entire bag/batch was safe. He didn't believe there could be "hot spots". They're really sticking with their deny, deny, deny tactics. |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Gunner11 - 2015-02-18 9:58 AM ghost rider - 2015-02-17 4:20 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-15 7:45 PM darchick - 2015-02-15 7:15 PM GLP - 2015-02-15 6:18 PM Nope, I am not buying any more GroStrong minerals either. I am looking for a new vitamin/ mineral supplement now. I hate to because I really liked their product. Are the minerals possibly contaminated? I just ordered some GroStrong Mineral Blocks but haven't picked them up yet. I haven't read all 30 something pages on the feed issue, so can someone educate me? They do make a medicated mineral. Can't tell you if yours is at risk tho. I won't continue to support a company that would lie to someone about their feed being contaminated, regardless of how much I like the product. That's what got me...ADM basically calling the horse owners, vets, & testing labs liars and the evidence "baseless accusations." So even though the GLO line has not (as far as I know) been affected I dumped over 150# of SeniorGLO and PrimeGLO in the ditch outside of my pasture & will be mailing back the GroStrong block and bag of HealthyGLO I had ordered. Mine are back on Safechoice Senior for the moment (since that's what they were eating prior to the switch - checked with Nutrena to make sure the mill my feed store gets it from is ionophore-free) and will be making the transition to Bluebonnet in the near future. For me it's too much like playing Russian Roulette...testing the feed only tells you that the portion they selected was OK. You can have a portion test clear and a portion test "hot" in the exact same batch. Add to that the FDA actually has an allowable content limit of monesin for horse feed...and even if they are produced through separate lines are they carried in separate, dedicated trucks? No thanks... The rep I talked to tried to tell me that if a sample tested safe, that meant the entire bag/batch was safe. He didn't believe there could be "hot spots". They're really sticking with their deny, deny, deny tactics.
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    Location: OKLAHOMA | I have to admit, I have been just sitting and reading all the threads on this all situation. I read about the contamination in the southern part of the U.S. back several months ago and just broke my heart. I have fed ADM for almost 14years. Started with Moor GLO, have fed Senior Glo, Power Glo and several of the Patriot's over the the years. Have been feeding Patriot for the past year. This whole issue has me so angry. We as horse people have put our faith not to mention the amount of money we have spent into a company that has turned so money hungry that they do not care. I will not claim to completely understand and the so called technical jargin. But I will not knowingly feed something that can possibly cause my horses any harm. As of last week I switch to Renew Gold. So far I like it my mares seem to like it. I pray that nobody has any more issues from this whole terrible thing, and also for those who have lost possibly lost a horse to this problem. I will share that I called and spoke with people from Renew Gold and found them very helpful with this. When I went in to buy Renew the girls at the counter were shocked when i asked for it, and told me the ADM rep wash in the store and asked if i would like to talk with him. I loudly told them NO, because it appeared all they could give anybody was excuses . Wishing everybody the best with trying to decied which way to go!! |
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   Location: Somewhere between the badlands and worselands | I'm sorry but some of the posts about not changing because it comes from so and so mill or you're going to have it tested.....
UMMMM HELLO!?!?!?! You're going to continue to feed something that could potentially harm/kill your horse and has been proven to do so because it might not be contaminated because a certain mill might do things differently? And what about testing? Are you gonna have every bag tested? Just because the batch you had tested isn't contaminated doesn't mean the next one wont be. If you're going to spend upwards of 100 dollars to have it tested, why not just invest that in new feed instead?
I guess I just don't understand. If i found out something my horses are ingesting could hurt them, I would light it on fire. I invested way too much time, money, and love into my animals to put them at risk. And there's too many well formulated NON TOXIC feeds out there to do so.
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      Location: Beggs, OK | Please remember that ADM is not the only mill with a problem. Random testing by individuals and sharing of information will reduce the likelyhood of this happening to someone else. The FDA needs new guidelines when it comes to horse feed, because as of right now there are no publish "action levels" for ionophores in horse feed....it simply shouldn't be there. |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-02-18 11:35 AM
Please remember that ADM is not the only mill with a problem. Β Random testing by individuals and sharing of information will reduce the likelyhood of this happening to someone else. Β The FDA needs new guidelines when it comes to horse feed, because as of right now there are no publish "action levels" for ionophores in horse feed....it simply shouldn't be there.Β
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