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Kaycee
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-02-26 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: Suicide



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Sourkiss, I am so very sorry for your loss.  It is something that you try to wrap your head around but you just can't come up with any sense for it.  I lost my best friend to suicide 17 years ago this past Monday.  I can say that when it happened and for the first year I had a lot of anger and could not believe she left me and her family.  After a while I began to just miss her and accept that she was in a very dark place that no one could have saved her.  I now have very vivid dreams about her and most of the time I waking smiling and thinking she is ok and other dreams I feel like she is trying to tell me something.  Those dreams she always seems so somber.  I don't know what to make of it but I am so grateful to still see her in my dreams.  She died when we were 31 and she will forever be young and beautiful.  I miss her A LOT but for some reason she had to go and I will never have the true reason why but I finally love watching videos or looking at pictures of us.  It finally makes me laugh, smile and even cry.  
Many people have told wonderful stories of their loss and I hope we can comfort you if only for a brief moment.  Emotions are so raw at this time for you and your brother so don't hold anything against him and know that every human has their unique way to deal with the loss of a loved one whether it's by accident, natural causes or suicide.  Here is a big
  to help hold you tight at this dark time.
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GOIN' FAST
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-02-26 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: Suicide



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Sending prayers your way.
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-02-26 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: Suicide


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My heartfelt sympathy and compassion for your loss.  Sending many HUGS your way..

I'm not going to try to explain suicide, as I don't understand the depths of dispair some people feel. My heart truly aches for them.  
What I do know is that God LOVES all of his children and he forgives us for our sins. God can see into our heart and He understands the pain and torment that some suffer through. I believe those that are victims of suicide are comforted in His arms and they are relieved of the bondage that held them hostage in this world. That His loving embrace is the first thing they feel once they leave this world and that all anguish and suffering is immediately removed. 
Believe that your father has gone home to God and all his earthly sins have been washed away. Please try to picture your father in God's loving arms and know that he no longer suffers. Feel God's love and understanding has healed your father's soul and that he is now free and full of God's love and grace. Know that he has now ascended to heaven and awaits his place, basking in God's compassion and mercy.  Amen. 
 
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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2015-02-26 7:00 PM
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Many hugs to you. I have no better advice than what has already been given here from others. No matter how it happens the loss of a loved one is very hard. Prayers to your family that God brings you comfort in this tragic time.
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Swannranch
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2015-02-26 7:36 PM
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 For me it was my Sister-in-law but also my close friend. I was so angry once the shock faded...that I didnt even cry for 2 years. I went through the motions and did most of the planning because my husband (his sister) was devistated. Then one day I started to cry and thought I would never stop. It was a total SHOCK, no one had any idea. I will keep you all in my prayers...it is a strange world, no one knows what to say, people kind of expect you to move on faster, well faster than I was ready anyway. There is no normal...
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nance
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2015-02-26 7:42 PM
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I'm so sorry you are going through this.  
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sourkiss378
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2015-02-26 9:06 PM
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Anniemae - 2015-02-26 6:13 PM My heartfelt sympathy and compassion for your loss.  Sending many HUGS your way..



I'm not going to try to explain suicide, as I don't understand the depths of dispair some people feel. My heart truly aches for them.  

What I do know is that God LOVES all of his children and he forgives us for our sins. God can see into our heart and He understands the pain and torment that some suffer through. I believe those that are victims of suicide are comforted in His arms and they are relieved of the bondage that held them hostage in this world. That His loving embrace is the first thing they feel once they leave this world and that all anguish and suffering is immediately removed. 

Believe that your father has gone home to God and all his earthly sins have been washed away. Please try to picture your father in God's loving arms and know that he no longer suffers. Feel God's love and understanding has healed your father's soul and that he is now free and full of God's love and grace. Know that he has now ascended to heaven and awaits his place, basking in God's compassion and mercy.  Amen. 
 

Thank you for your kind words. I truly hope you are right. The thought of him in Gods embrace gives me comfort. I truly appreciate it. I'd like to think I have a new gaurdina angel.
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-02-26 9:12 PM
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Tomorrow marks two months since my husband’s father took his life.

Take things minute by minute if you have to. My husband has been taking it very hard. All of his kids are. I strongly recommend therapy. We are basically just trying to cope and survive. Keep on truckin. I am here if you ever need to talk. I am sorry because I know I can't say anything to make you feel better. I am a good listener though if you need an ear.
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-27 5:45 AM
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I have no advice but I am so very sorry for your loss. Many prayers!
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-02-27 7:16 AM
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 Prayers for your loss, I am so sorry you lost your father this way.  Suicide is so difficult for those left behind to understand.  I hope with time you find peace in your grieving.
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-02-27 7:41 AM
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This is tough. I don't have much in the way of help but many prayers.
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Canchasr1
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-27 8:35 AM
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Im so very sorry for your loss
I just got word that one of my clients husband, who recently retired from the military committed suicide Wednesday.
I cant fathom what you both are going through but will pray that God wraps his arms around you both and somehow eases your pain.  
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-02-27 11:14 AM
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Checking in to see how you are doing today.  Sending more hugs your way. 

 
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coastal rider
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-02-27 11:50 AM
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We can never know the pain someone may be feeling who commits suicide. I lost my dad to suicide . He was depressed because he could not stop drinking.  I ended up treating or thinking about his  problem like a disease.  Some people get depressed and are in emotional pain and just like having a terminal disease feel they must end it.

They do not realize how much it affects those around them unfortunately, but do not lay blame.

So I accept his death as a consquence of something as serious as cancer though it is behavior related maybe due to a a host of issues.

I think the key is keep the memory of your dad alive by holding him in your thoughts in those quiet moments when you are alone and can remember him.  If you keep him in your heart always, he is not truly gone, he is with you still. Remember the good times and the good things you shared and cherish that always.

We were caught off guard but looking back the signs were there.  You and your brother will have to be there for each other now and all you can do is endure this pain, but honour your father, remember him always  and keep in  mind never ever forget or take for granted the family bonds  you still have. His passing is never perhaps going to be easy to explain. We underestimate the mental pain and trauma some people face.

Take what you can from this and go forward more determined than ever  to support each other whether family or friends and cherish the relationships you have. Tragedy can strike anytime and we never know when. Maybe that is his legacy to you.  If he is in your heart he is not gone, just waiting for the time when you are all back together again.

I can only say this old northern cowboy says a prayer for your dad and for you and your family. Keep the love burning.

With respect,
Coastal Rider 

  

 
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BigSkyDream
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-02-27 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Suicide


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sourkiss378 - 2015-02-26 1:12 PM

aggiejudger - 2015-02-26 12:31 PM First off, I wish I could give you a million hugs. My heart hurts for you and your family. I lost my brother (only full sibling) and uncle to suicide.



Here is what I have learned:

1. The anger is natural. Don't feel guilty for it.

2. You will never have the answers you want. Those left behind want to make sense of it all. To make sense of it requires answer that only your father could give you.

3. We will never understand the demons people face. We never truly know the battle each person is dealing with.

4. We want to understand suicide with a rational and logical mind. A person who commits suicide is neither of the two.

5. God loves each of us.
Only God knows what is in our hearts and minds. He understands our struggles. Never for a moment believe that your father will be in hell for what he did. Only God determines our fates and he knows our challenges.

6. People call suicide selfish because of the pain inflicted on those left behind. From my experiences, it would be selfish on my part to force the daily struggles upon my brother and uncle so I would not feel sorrow and loss.



I know I will see both of them again. I know that this life is temporary and Heaven is eternal. While that doesn't make the pain any less, it makes the sorrow bearable.



Prayers for your family.  

 

I am struggling and worried about his soul. My brother has already said he thinks he has gone to hell and when he talks about it I get really upset. I don't want to believe he has gone to hell. I want to see my Dad again in heaven but I am so worried about it.
I don't think I will ever understand why he choose this but I am glad he isn't in pain anymore.
I think what has hit me the hardest was he had out all of my old buckles on his dresser looking at them before he died and I just wonder why I or my brother couldn't be enough of a reason for him to try and stick around.
My parents were divorced so me and my brother are the closest relatives and are responsible for everything. His debt and estate and everything will be going into probate and I am scared to death about this as well.  

I would find it a very petty God indeed that would condemn someone who commits suicide. People with normal brain chemistry just don't do this. They aren't crazy, but something is off that makes them view the world differently, and it's in a haze of emotional pain. It's a pain that can't be seen, and some are very good at covering it up behind smiles, but it's there. They don't necessarily want to die, but it gets to the point that their life hurts so much, it's a relief to them to be rid of it. Their fear of death is overwhelmed by the emotional pain. This is not a choice (people like to throw absolutes out there like "happiness is a choice" but if your brain chemistry is off, it is NOT). Someone suffering from this doesn't choose to be this way, hence why I say it would be petty, indeed, for God to condemn. I would like to think that a God that knows everything about all creation would see that and understand it's a death from an unseen malady, an intangible enemy.

No one should feel guilty for things that are out of their hands. Be angry, be sad, grieve. It is normal and natural. Just don't blame yourself.
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