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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-12 8:08 AM
Subject: Cellulitis



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 I didn't know what cellultis was until this past year.  Since, I've had one mare with it three times.  Each time has been from a small break in the skin on her back legs, this last time I had blistered her back legs bc of a tendon issue and now she has it again.  Has anyone dealt with this and if so, what did you use or do to get them over it?  This time, vet said to try a Baytril paste and and wrap her 12 on 12 off.  I also was wondering if using Silver Lining Herbs Bld Klnz (Blood Cleanse) would help since this has been a reoccuring issue with her. Any info would be appreciated.
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-03-12 8:33 AM
Subject: RE: Cellulitis


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Oral anti biotics and manna pro's calm coat is what we've used.
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TBone
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-12 8:47 AM
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I have dealt with cellulitis in the past, been quite a few years ago, but it very frustrating to have to deal with.  Seems like once a horse has had it they are always prone to it at the slightest little thing.  My horse that had it is now very susceptible stocking up at the slightest amount of inactivity.  I really like the Silverlining Herbs products.  I would call them and ask which products they recommend for cellulitis.  They might also want you to consider the #24 Immune & #37 Kidney.
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-03-12 9:20 AM
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Heavy IV antibiotics and Game Ready three or four times a day, followed with Sore No More poultice properly wrapped overnight can really do wonders.
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rushlvr
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2015-03-12 9:43 AM
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We had a horse with a terrible rope burn, got cellulitis nothing worked, put him on theraplate 2x for 15 minutes for two weeks, 1x a day for a month. cut the swelling in half in 2 weeks, gone in a month. swelling has not come back that has been over a year now. completely sound.
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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-12 9:51 AM
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If I only had a Game Ready or Theraplate....... :(
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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-13 6:25 AM
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KJO
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2015-03-13 8:59 AM
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I am feeling your pain at this present time.  Went on vacation in Jan, came home to a huge hind leg.  Had 2 rounds of antibotics and now a litte dex.  Hosing it down twice a day and washing with betadine. Looks like I may need to invest in a  Game Ready or Theraplate.


 

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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-03-13 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Cellulitis


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Are her back feet white?

Is she eating any clover?

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BBrewster
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-13 4:33 PM
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Cellulitis is tricky... for one it is a serious infection and if left untreated can lead to death from septicemia/blood infection - it can quickly go south - so definitely having a vet involved is a good idea. Need to treat it from the inside out and need to keep it clean - which is hard w/a horse and a leg injury! I agree w/vet w/Baytril - its a good strong antibiotic - also keeping it clean - have you tried vetericyn? Its my go to - and its broad spectrum for killing the boogers and in cleaning any wound.. want to keep it debrided - meaning any hay particles etc if there is an open wound - need to be cleaned out daily.. cold hosing will help loosen it all (cold hosing also helps w/circulation mimicking a water massage :) and will help reduce the inflammation b/c its cold) and then i'd suggest vetericyn sprayed enough to let it run out and then wipe and spray and soak it through again. I like the gel kind. If you dont like vetericyn some sort of wash/anti-bacterial - as bacteria are what cause it. Also make sure you are cleaning around it - on the other skin/hair as bacteria may be draining from it and trapped in the area. Also may help to treat w/an anti-inflammatory along side the baytril... to help with the inflammation and it can be painful. Also anything you can do to help circulation - such as hand walking or turning them out so they can exercise - sometimes being sedentry can make ya prone to it so his prior treatment for the tendon issue maybe she wasn't getting good circulation there...I dont know if i'd wrap it - its tempting if it doesn't stay clean - but if its draining it may be trapping bacteria in/around it...maybe wrap at night and leave open during day... hate to go against vet advice but i've found best thing for wounds is usually to leave them open to the air unless they are really nasty or getting really dirty from the environment. Hope that helps!!!
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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-13 5:36 PM
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She doesn't have any white feet or stockings, thankfully. The vet wants me to wrap/sweat which is furason & dmso for first 24-48hrs, then go 12 on, 12 off for 5-6 days and see how it looks. She's up at night in a stall w/run and turned out on pasture during the day. I'm positive this came about from the blister for her tendon. Of course her legs blew up and oozed which is normal and I'm sure from the oozy places where the skin had broken she picked up the bacteria. It's been so wet and sloppy here for what seems like forever, hard to keep it clean without stalling her 24/7. I have started her on Silver Lining Herb's Bld Klz which I'm hoping will clean her blood of bacteria along with the Immune Support. She had an avulsion fracture this time last year which brought on the first round of cellulitis, healed up from that all good, then nicked the inside of the other back leg late summer, very small nick and that started the second episode. Yes, she's my "problem child," the vets have made a small fortune on me bc of her! So ready for it to end so I can get back to hauling her. I also ordered a pair of the Hidezequine ice/compression boots. Been needing a pair so thought might be good on her later on. Thanks for all the info!! I appreciate it!! :)
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CocoChex
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-03-13 6:17 PM
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Some horses are more prone tho cellulitis than others. I've had horses who had cellulitis in the past, and I have used IM antibitoics, followed by oral antibitoic treatment. I've found furasin sweats are great for getting swelling down.
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-03-14 10:20 PM
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 How do you tell if it's cellulitis vs just regular stocking up? I have a gelding that's been consistently stocking up especially on his 2 totally white legs. He also had a weird scabby stuff on one of his legs that I treated with an antibacterial wash and vetricyn. It's pretty much cleared up now, but still I'm concerned w/ the stocking up.
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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-16 7:39 AM
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Sounds like your gelding might have "Scratches".  https://www.smartpakequine.com/content/scratches-horse

In my mare's case the cellultis always pops up when she has a break in the skin, so far it's been both back legs.  They were puffed up and swollen from the blister but should have gone back down.  That's what made me think she had developed cellulitis again.  Vet confirmed it by pushing his fingers on her legs and said it feels like a sponge when you mash on it.  I'm using Enrofloxacin, which is a Baytril liquid and wrapping her with furason/dmso sweat and she's doing much better.  She will occassionally stock up when left up but normally the swelling goes away after being turned out in the pasture.  Cellulitis swelling does not go away until treated.
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-03-17 4:01 AM
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hbrandranch - 2015-03-16 7:39 AM Sounds like your gelding might have "Scratches".  https://www.smartpakequine.com/content/scratches-horse

In my mare's case the cellultis always pops up when she has a break in the skin, so far it's been both back legs.  They were puffed up and swollen from the blister but should have gone back down.  That's what made me think she had developed cellulitis again.  Vet confirmed it by pushing his fingers on her legs and said it feels like a sponge when you mash on it.  I'm using Enrofloxacin, which is a Baytril liquid and wrapping her with furason/dmso sweat and she's doing much better.  She will occassionally stock up when left up but normally the swelling goes away after being turned out in the pasture.  Cellulitis swelling does not go away until treated.
I have heard of that condition before, but I don't think it's the same thing. Mine only gets it on his cannons, about half way up his leg. I took pictures before I scrubbed all the dead scabby stuff off but his pastern area as well as his cannon is still a little puffy.
ETA- sorry I'm just totally nabbing your thread.


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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-17 6:34 AM
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It can go up the cannon bone as well......

 
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-03-17 7:02 AM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-17 4:01 AM
hbrandranch - 2015-03-16 7:39 AM Sounds like your gelding might have "Scratches".  https://www.smartpakequine.com/content/scratches-horse



In my mare's case the cellultis always pops up when she has a break in the skin, so far it's been both back legs.  They were puffed up and swollen from the blister but should have gone back down.  That's what made me think she had developed cellulitis again.  Vet confirmed it by pushing his fingers on her legs and said it feels like a sponge when you mash on it.  I'm using Enrofloxacin, which is a Baytril liquid and wrapping her with furason/dmso sweat and she's doing much better.  She will occassionally stock up when left up but normally the swelling goes away after being turned out in the pasture.  Cellulitis swelling does not go away until treated.
I have heard of that condition before, but I don't think it's the same thing. Mine only gets it on his cannons, about half way up his leg. I took pictures before I scrubbed all the dead scabby stuff off but his pastern area as well as his cannon is still a little puffy.

ETA- sorry I'm just totally nabbing your thread.

Yep, you have scratches. First thing you need to scrub the legs with a chlorhexydine shampoo and clip the legs.  Clipping the hair is of utmost importance and you will need to scrub with the antifungal shampoo at the very least every other day. Then talk to your vet about a salve to use to heal them up. You have to be careful with the scrubbing. I cant stress this enough. You have to get those scabs off but DO NOT GET TO AGRESSIVE with the washing. Dont take a brush, use a wash rag and it will take repeated washings and time to get the scabs off.Just work on the scabs with your fingers easily when you wash and dry her and put the salve on 2x a day. Keeping the legs dry is paramount and wet pastures just keep it going. If you over scrub, you can push the bacteria internal into the bloodstream and then you have a very serious mess.I know this first hand beause I have a horse this happened to while she was at a rehab facility. We almost lost her.
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