Log in to my account Barrel Horse World
Come on in Folks on-line

Today is

You are logged in as a guest. Logon or register an account to access more features.


Dropping Shoulder

Jump to page :
Last activity 2015-03-17 11:16 AM
7 replies, 2792 views

View previous thread :: View next thread
   General Discussion -> Barrel Talk
Refresh
 
SuperTrooper
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2015-03-15 1:56 PM
Subject: Dropping Shoulder



Elite Veteran


Posts: 911
500100100100100
Location: Northern Ontario
So I haven't even showed Lola the pattern yet specifically because I want to fix issues like this before. I have three barrels set up in a row in the arena. I do spirals around then, lope nice little 1o foot circles and basically practice proper form in circles as well as approaches, proper bend, ect.... recently she has figure out that it can be fun to lope from one barrel to the other and turn, so sometimes as we are loping around the arena she will try to drop her shoulder and turn into a barrel if we approach one, or she will simply turn and drop her shoulder if I ask for a bit of bend. she just does it when we are loping to the left. On the right she is good and has nice bend, the left has always been her stiffer side so I work on a lot of shoulder control exercise on that side(like shoulder ins). When I go to correct her for the dropped shoulder, I lift my inside rein and push her off with my inside leg at the girth and outside just a bit behind to hold her bend, It works but not enough to correct her because she still tries to do it. Also when I do that, she tends to lose the bend in her neck. Next, when I lope her on a larger circle I tip her head to the inside and support with my outside rein, but then again she tries to dive in, so I try holding her with my outside rein and it just gets really messy. Any advice? She just started doing it so I really wanna nip it in the butt cause I know it"s a terrible habit to break. When I pick up my rein she want to turn(and drop her shoulder) instead of bend.

Edited by SuperTrooper 2015-03-15 2:00 PM
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-03-15 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: Dropping Shoulder


The Advice Guru


Posts: 6419
50001000100100100100
What type of bit, and does she know how to reverse arc.

I find most colts go through this, I call it the teenage years where they think they know it all.

Sharon Camarillo has a good drill for these horses, she believes in working boxes, which I use on my horses who have too much bend.

You will drive into the turn, then pivot 90 at your corners, if doing it properly they cannot drop a shoulder.

Another drill you can use is when the horse drops the shoulder, reverse arc a 360 then complete the turn.

With big circles I will reverse arc into a bigger circle each time they try and make the circle smaller.

I have never been too worried about the bend in the neck, I am more worried about the bend in the rib cage.
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
SuperTrooper
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2015-03-15 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: Dropping Shoulder



Elite Veteran


Posts: 911
500100100100100
Location: Northern Ontario
She is just in a d-ring snaffle.(she is really light in that bit, but I need more lift in her shoulders) I have just started teacher her counter-arcs. When her neck is stiff with no bend, she typically has no bend in her ribcage, so I pick up my inside rein and apply inside leg to get my bend. Is there a video on youtube or an article I can look at for the 90 degree exercise?
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-03-15 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Dropping Shoulder



Take a Picture


Posts: 12838
50005000200050010010010025
Martha Josey has a new book out with drills for that.
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-03-15 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: Dropping Shoulder


Military family

Sock eating dog owner


Posts: 4553
200020005002525
Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah
Instead of making a circle around the barrel you pivot making a square. If drawn on paper you have a square with a circle in the middle. As a rider you are creating the square. Now you are creating squares.
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-03-15 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: Dropping Shoulder


The Advice Guru


Posts: 6419
50001000100100100100
I would teach her reverse arcing before I start going around any obsticle.

Also if she is pushing into the bit, I would suggest getting a different one to make her back off of the bit.

It sounds like she needs more buttons and foundation work before advancing any further
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
imturnin3
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-03-15 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: Dropping Shoulder


Extreme Veteran


Posts: 477
100100100100252525
Location: Lost in the swamps
Keep her guessing, pass it up and NOT allow her to turn if you feel any anticipation,move on to the next.
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
SuperTrooper
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2015-03-17 11:16 AM
Subject: RE: Dropping Shoulder



Elite Veteran


Posts: 911
500100100100100
Location: Northern Ontario
I guess it was just a phase or one of those days because she hasn't tried it again :) thanks for the advice
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
Jump to page :
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread
 

© Copyright 2002- BarrelHorseWorld.com All rights reserved including digital rights

Support - Contact / Log in to my account


Working Truck World Working Horse World Cargo Trailer World Horse Trailer World Roping Horse World
'
Registered to: Barrel Horse World
(Delete all cookies set by this site)
Running MegaBBS ASP Forum Software
© 2002-2025 PD9 Software