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Location: SE Louisiana | MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom.  They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard. But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
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Location: MD | Would I specifically breed a true Halter bred mare hoping to get a barrel prospect... no. That having been said, I have had a couple over the past couple of years who were meant for the Halter pen who have done well for me.
This mare http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sierras+kit+te Her dam is an APHA dam of several World/Res World Champion APHA Halter horses, most notably Brooks R Dunn, who is a leading sire of APHA Halter horses. That mare is huge by performance horse standards. Of course, having been used as a performance horse for her entire life, she does not have the correct muscling to go to the Halter pen, but I think a good fitter could have her ready in about 90 days. She isn't super great on manicured ground, but loves deep, heavy ground and has run low to mid 17's on a Standard pattern at rodeos.
This mare http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/little+cata+cool was bred by a very successful Halter Horse breeder, but was culled due to some health issues early on which impeded her growth in time for the Futurities. She ended up being a very nice 2D horse locally and 3D horse at the big shows. | |
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| komet. - 2015-03-19 10:27 PM
MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
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It's the truth  I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance | |
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Location: Oklahoma City OK | Getting off topic, just again addressing the subject of Impressive...the ones I have seen/known with "bad attitudes" were man made bad attitudes. Most of the winning halter horses are never allowed to just be horses, hence that could also cause a whole lot of "attitude". I am sure that most of the Impressives were bred to be SHOW horses and not WORKING horses and rarely given the opportunity to be treated like every day working horses. I have worked with many, many Impressive bred horses and the ones that were allowed to "be horses" and not maintained like hot-house flowers were ALL, without fail, intelligent, sensitive, athletic, super easy to work with and train and be around as long as they were treated fairly and reasonably. I would do everything possible NOT to get into a fight with one and that philosophy always worked well for what I wanted to do. No, I didn't train any that went on to be great superstars in the show pen or barrel racing industry, but I have no doubt they had the capability to do so. The ones I've known that weren't so pleasant to work with, again, were all man made problems and yes, those did not come around well. I have a lot of faith in a lot of Three Bars in the pedigree, so that is what I notice and commend. Again, just my 2 cents...I guess it all comes down to what each person has experienced. The only horse that has ever intentionally hurt me bad was an Appaloosa stud, a thousand years ago, but I still to this day, have huge disdain for Appaloosas, even though I've also worked with some exceptional Appaloosas. One's experience is usually one's opinion but may not be applicable to all horses/all situations. | |
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| The mare is not only halter bred but looks like a BS paint? If she's a BS paint, heavy halter bred top and bottom you better hope the foal comes out turning a barrel like Louie if you wanna ever sale it. Basically you would be making what I call a QH mutt, a mixed discipline horse that will never fit in unless it is an amazing freak of a performer.
I'd buy one if it was already running and winning. It would probably be a reasonably priced horse even if it was a barn burner because with the halter breeding and the paint status people would still be scared. I'd never buy it for a prospect because there is NO market to sale it unless it was a BAD cat.
Here is a pic about how diverse the QH breed is and I feel like you should bred to the discipline not just to get a registered horse.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 7:31 AM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I vote nope too lots to choose from.
I have one, get along great with her but won't ever own one again. Good luck trying to sell one and she doesn't have typical halter conformation she looks like a big race mare. N/N too
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Location: SE Louisiana | MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 7:31 AM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
You've been "told" of this "theory"....
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Location: SE Louisiana | MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 12:59 PM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 7:31 AM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
You've been "told" of this "theory"....
Oh I SAW it proven in school and after.... No worries there...
Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen HYPP kill a horse right in front of you?
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
You've been "told" of this "theory"....
Oh I SAW it proven in school and after.... No worries there...
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 12:59 PM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
You've been "told" of this "theory"....
Oh I SAW it proven in school and after.... No worries there...
Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen HYPP kill a horse right in front of you?
Your point you are trying to make about HYPP is moot...lumping all Impressive bred horses in the HYPP group isn't appropriate, I have never ridden anything that wasn't N/N and never would. HYPP is a horrible disease, yes. Does it mean you should get rid of an entire bloodline? NO...It's time to be responsible, not irrational
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Location: SE Louisiana | MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 1:20 PM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 12:59 PM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 7:31 AM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
You've been "told" of this "theory"....
Oh I SAW it proven in school and after.... No worries there...
Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen HYPP kill a horse right in front of you?
Your point you are trying to make about HYPP is moot...lumping all Impressive bred horses in the HYPP group isn't appropriate, I have never ridden anything that wasn't N/N and never would. HYPP is a horrible disease, yes. Does it mean you should get rid of an entire bloodline? NO...It's time to be responsible, not irrational
My Point is you've never seen it happen. You've only heard about it, but you don't doubt it... Well, I've seen plenty of experienced horse people have to deal with this attitude... So don't try to tell me it's not there. Maybe you're just one of the few people in the world qualified to deal with it.. | |
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
You've been "told" of this "theory"....
Oh I SAW it proven in school and after.... No worries there...
Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen HYPP kill a horse right in front of you?
Your point you are trying to make about HYPP is moot...lumping all Impressive bred horses in the HYPP group isn't appropriate, I have never ridden anything that wasn't N/N and never would. HYPP is a horrible disease, yes. Does it mean you should get rid of an entire bloodline? NO...It's time to be responsible, not irrational
My Point is you've never seen it happen. You've only heard about it, but you don't doubt it... Well, I've seen plenty of experienced horse people have to deal with this attitude... So don't try to tell me it's not there. Maybe you're just one of the few people in the world qualified to deal with it..
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 12:59 PM
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MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 7:31 AM
komet. - 2015-03-19 10:27 PM
MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard.
 But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion.
Interesting POV..
It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I never said they all did it.. But over the years enough of them did to give the reputation.. I didn't just pull this theory out of my butt.... It's been out there for years.... I went to farrier school in 91 and was told right off the bat there were two bloodlines you didn't want to screw with.... His was one of them.
You've been "told" of this "theory"....
Oh I SAW it proven in school and after.... No worries there...
Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen HYPP kill a horse right in front of you?
Your point you are trying to make about HYPP is moot...lumping all Impressive bred horses in the HYPP group isn't appropriate, I have never ridden anything that wasn't N/N and never would. HYPP is a horrible disease, yes. Does it mean you should get rid of an entire bloodline? NO...It's time to be responsible, not irrational
My Point is you've never seen it happen. You've only heard about it, but you don't doubt it... Well, I've seen plenty of experienced horse people have to deal with this attitude... So don't try to tell me it's not there. Maybe you're just one of the few people in the world qualified to deal with it..
Maybe I am lol
Hey I'm not kidding here... I've seen people that can get their hands on a difficult horse and it turns into soft malleable clay.. They can do anything with them.. Like that dentist I mentioned on another thread.. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | MeepMeep - 2015-03-20 7:31 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 10:27 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 4:38 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 4:09 PM Fairweather - 2015-03-19 3:59 PM komet. - 2015-03-19 3:51 PM MeepMeep - 2015-03-19 6:54 AM komet. - 2015-03-19 5:10 AM Let's stop beating around the bush here...Everyone can see Impressive top and bottom. If he is close enough you have to worry about HYPP, he is close enough you have to worry about the bad attitudes he was known to throw. So even if the tests do come back N/N you still have to worry about the 'tude' showing up. Those are unpleasant at best.. I've seen nasty 'tudes' with him just on one side... I can't imaging a foal with him top AND bottom. They don't have bad attitudes, they are sensitive and when push comes to shove they will shove back. They have a ton of "fight" instinct and not much "flight". Takes a good horseperson to get along with an Impressive, you can't jack with them. They make outstanding horses if you know how to work with one. That's about the best definition of a bad attitude in a horse I ever heard. But they take it to extremes.. It's like having a 2 year old child that has a fit EVERY time they don't get their way...and it starts the instant they hit the ground... and they keep behaving that way until they mature... and they do that late.. Sure some of them turn into nice horses.... but all the years of hissy fits getting them there is a lot of darn work that may or may not pay off. They don't have hissy fits, they only have hissy fits when someone that doesn't know how to handle one causes them. I have started quite a few of them from the ground up, they are easy to get along with if you know how to treat them. And they do not mature late, everyone that I had was running when they were 4 or 5, solidly on the barrels and the poles. Actually some of the easiest horses to train in my opinion. Interesting POV.. It's the truth I think most horses will throw a hissy fit if they are constantly picked at. Some just have a lower tolerance to BS than others. But to say that all Impressive breds throw years of hissy fits...shows some ignorance
I am going to agree with Komet here to a point. I don’t know how old you are MM but I was around when the first and second generation of colts (by Impressive) hit the ground and VERY few of them ever made “rideable” horses. You can look back at the AQHA statistics and MOST were only used as “halter horses”…….There was a reason for that…….They were hot idiots…..That being said, I would venture to say that those of you who get along with and love the Impressive bred horses are riding third, fourth or fifth generation bloodline.
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| I didnt read through everything.. but my pro calibre horse is halter and cutting on the top and run on the bottom... he can FLY... when he is not having issues... | |
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