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Location: Greencastle PA | Hello, I have a gelding that is running past the 1st barrel really bad, the 2nn and the 3rd are great. Any advice on work that I can do at home to get him more collected rounded and useing his butt? He is not hurting he is a front endy horses and he rolls out of his turns. Any adivce would help.
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 Namesless in BHW
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Video would be helpful |
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Location: Greencastle PA | Thanks but I cant get the video to load. |
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Location: North Dakota | Video would be best to see what is going on. Upload it to YouTube and then post the link here.
How are you setting him up for the turn? What are you doing with your hands, legs, seat, and eyes? (where are you looking?)
Is this something NEW that has started or have you always had a problem?
You say he is not hurting. What has been checked? Hocks? Stifles? SI? My horse used to run past his turns too, before I knew he had a fusing hock and a catching stifle.
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 Gotta Have a Gray
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Location: Tex. Panhandle | Videos would be helpful however, here is my advice.
Work on drills that make him rate and let him settle at the first barrel. Walk him up, stop him (wait till he starts licking/chewing and RELAXES), walk him around it and stop him again (let him relax) and do another circle, then let him finish it and counter arc off 2nd or whatever you want to do if he doesnt need work on the it. He needs to be shaped when he is stopped (hip in, bent at the ribcage, and nose tipped) and to stay shaped when walking around the barrel. Then do it at a trot, then a lope. Possibly eventually a run if you feel it necessary; i'm not saying slam him in the ground at a faster speen, but make him STOP and RELAX. You want him looking for that rate point and taking pressure OFF of him when he rates for you. Postivie reinforcement. Horses learn by pressure being removed. So you are rewarding him for rating by letting him stop, rest and walk around the barrel.
It will take a couple weeks, give or take of constant repetition. But it DOES work. |
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Location: Sunnyland Florida |
Some information is needed to answer that question and to know what is needed to fix it.
Did he used to turn the 1st good? Did he just start doing this, and how long ago?
How long has the horse been running barrels, and how old is he?
Is he running full speed to the 1st?
Are you letting him go from the back of the alleyway?
Have you recently added more speed to your pattern?
I have suggestions but need to know the above. Thanks.
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Location: Southern Indiana | barrelracerpa04 - 2015-05-07 8:36 AM
Hello, I have a gelding that is running past the 1st barrel really bad, the 2nn and the 3rd are great. Any advice on work that I can do at home to get him more collected rounded and useing his butt? He is not hurting he is a front endy horses and he rolls out of his turns. Any adivce would help.
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If you can, try to haul him to arenas where this is enough room to circle for awhile. Send him pretty well in the center of the pen and never completely give him his nose going into that first and when he starts to arc into it about 3-4 strides out lift your inside rein a couple times, don't check just LIFT. It you do it right it will work. I've seen and had it fix several horses. Horses that run by the first want to take their head away. You keep that nose and remind them to bend their body and not stiff ya they will turn.
Do lots of stopping, backing, and roll backs at home. Work him on the fence at a trot. Use your outside leg to hold his hind quarters in. Teach him to move his hind quarters around his front. Walt/trot lots of smaller circles keeping his nose tipped, body bent, hind quarters in and FORWARD motion.
Trot to the barrel stop about 3 strides before and back him. Keep his hip up under him and then make him step forward into the turn. |
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Location: Greencastle PA | He is 12, been running for 6 years, was running to the right and doing the same thing so I swaped him to the left and still doing it only on the 1st barrel. He is now getting lungie in the alley way I can't hold him back. So I thought I could do some slow working excerises at home? I have been trying to fix this problem for a very long time now.
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Location: Greencastle PA | Thank you so much Dutchman01. I'm going to try your method |
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 ND Sweetheart
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Location: In My Own Dream Land | Does he fire hard during his runs, or does he seem to die off?
Reason I'm asking is it could be a bleeder issue..
Edited by tThompson 2015-05-08 3:32 PM
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