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| We are having a bout of what seems to be hoof rot in our small cattle herd. We are in northern Ca, so its DRY. And we don't have any wet spots in the pasture. We've had cows on his particular pasture for 4 years, and cattle in this town/general area for 50+ years. Never had an issue until just the past 2 months.
First it was a baldy heifer that came up lame on a hind, it was classic hoof rot with the swelling up the leg, spreading of the toes, then it broke and drained just above the hooves at the hairline there above where the toes split. gave her some LA 200 and the hoof healed up great.
Then, a less than one month old calf from a different cow came up lame in a hind. She was lame a few days when it broke open, then it healed up and went away on its own.
Now one of our reg hereford heifers has come up lame in a hind, but not sure what it is quite yet, as it too soon to tell much.
Another cow is lame in a front foot, but there is a cut right above the hoof, its horizontal almost looks like she just cut it on something. So I'm guessing that isn't the same thing...
Any ideas what is causing this spell of what seems to be hoof rot?
I've tried to do some internet research and maybe they are lacking minerals, especially zinc. we always have mineral and salt blocks out there. they get a selenium bolus anually.... so i'm not sure! Maybe we need some loose minerals. I'm going to talk to our vet, they are supposed to be out this month for a ranch call, but just wanted to know if anyone else had this issue before. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | well we have irrigated pasture and we had 4 cases of hoof rot this year. I caught it early we give a shot of draxxon and heals up in a few days. Our herd has been using our protein tubs down alot more than normal this year. I don't know why if its dry and I'm not an expert by any means just the way it goes sometime.. Until this year we had only ever had 1 case of hoof rot... |
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Location: Texas | It sounds like hoof rot, but usually its from them getting hot and then standing in water, muddy pens/area, or manure.
I would definitely go ahead and treat with antibiotics, but I wouldn't use LA 200. Bio Mycin 200 or Tylan 200, it wouldn't hurt to give PPG either. The best thing to treat hoof rot is Naxcel - if you have a way to get your hands on it.
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Location: South | We live in central Arkansas where we have foot rot all the time. We have found that good minerals (Right now is what we use) and Long Range dewormer has helped tremendously this year. We have a two cases of foot rot starting this year and we treat it with Nuflor, and have had good results. |
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| Growing up in the super wet PacNW, we have had our run ins with foot rot. You can have hoof rot hanging out in your dirt for years if you're in a dry area and then wham get hit with it.
It is a combination of a couple of different bacterias .... one will be dormant in your soil but it also needs the other to penetrate "fresh, new tissue". This stuff sucks and management of your herd is imperative to keeping it from spreading.
Naxel works wonders in cattle and sheep. Copper tox squirted directly into the hoof will help keep it from spreading while you are trying to treat too.
This is a GREAT peer reviewed journal article explaining the aetiology of foot rot. "The aetiology and pathology of foot rot. A histological study of the bacteria invasion" By Drs http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0021997569900073 |
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | We had a bad run of hoof rot this winter in our bull feedlot. We had great luck with Noromycin 300 LA, Tylan wasn't touching it. We also liked that the 300 was a 3 day shot so you don't have to treat as often. Tylan is labeled for daily doses.
We did some research on this as well and added the highest iodine content salt blocks to those pens affected. Also found granules that we were able to sprinkle on the ground around the water trough that was supposed to help. I need to ask my husband what those were.
Seems like once you get foot rot on one others are going to get it as well. I would highly suspect foot rot in your heifer. Could it be a cracked toe or corn? We get cracked toes quite a bit because our cattle go from wet meadows to dry mountain pastures and its hard on their feet. Cracked toes just have to heal on their own.
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| thanks everyone for the replies. Sure is strange that during this same time period, we have also had 2 calves with pneumonia. i'm thinking they are definitely lacking something. The weather here has been anywhere from 70-80 in the day and 30-40 at nights, so maybe that has something to do with it? Its not humid. All our cows get vaccinated and dewomed. We've been deworming once a year. I think we should do that more often. we vaccinate the calves when they are about 2-3 months old.
I don't notice any cracked toes...
Hoping my vet might have some answers, but sometimes even they aren't sure! |
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| You answered your own question with the word HEREFORD ...
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Now one of our reg hereford heifers has come up lame in a hind, but not sure what it is quite yet, as it too soon to tell much.
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Herefords have been known for years to have foot rot and pink eye //cancer and this is the reason ranchers went to angus and/or brahman crosses or pure breds... no more of the above to doctor on ...
Change breeds or mix'em and change the inherent diseases Herefords have that others don't .. |
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| Herefords are not the only bred to get foot rot or Cancer eyes nor pink eye. Every bred is susceptible to it. To the OP you can put out lose salt and put some Areo 50 in. It does not take a lot but it will keep the foot rot under control. |
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-05-09 3:43 PM
You answered your own question with the word HEREFORD ...
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Now one of our reg hereford heifers has come up lame in a hind, but not sure what it is quite yet, as it too soon to tell much.
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Herefords have been known for years to have foot rot and pink eye //cancer and this is the reason ranchers went to angus and/or brahman crosses or pure breds... no more of the above to doctor on ...
Change breeds or mix'em and change the inherent diseases Herefords have that others don't ..
This is so not true.
I do not like hefords, but we have them in the feedlot and a couple commercial cross cows.
Many moons ago hefords had no goggles that is where the eye issues came from, pink skin around the eyes. Like a bald faced horse. The google eyes have been brew back and no longer frowned upon in he breed. They have no more issues with cancer eye or pink eye than any other goggle eyed cow.
As for the foot rot, its no worse than any other breed.
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Foot rot can be an issue in dry hot weather. It seems to be like a "heat rash" that irritates the foot and skin alowwing bacteria a place to enter, and one of the bacteria that can cause foot rot natural appears in the fecal matter of the cattle. It can happen any time of the year.
I find its less common in mud then recall dry and hot acatualy. We dont have hardly any each year but I does happen in the feed lot from time to time. |
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | We have raised both registered Angus and registered Hereford for many years. The Angus cows get pink eye and foot rot as often as the Hereford cows. Every bit as often.
Hoping your vet lets you know what is going on. Share with us what you find, would love to learn something new to help with these kinds of things. |
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Location: Texas | We raise, breed and sell pure bred Brahmans and in the past few years have added Herefords to the ranch for F1 production. I would not blame hoof rot on the fact they are Herefords - at all. In a controlled environment any breed is equally susceptible to getting hoof rot or any other infection.
Has anything worked CamoCowgirl? Or one thing more than another?
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| EqualRanch - 2015-05-11 2:10 AM We raise, breed and sell pure bred Brahmans and in the past few years have added Herefords to the ranch for F1 production. I would not blame hoof rot on the fact they are Herefords - at all. In a controlled environment any breed is equally susceptible to getting hoof rot or any other infection.
Has anything worked CamoCowgirl? Or one thing more than another?
On the first heifer that got hoof rot we used LA 200 every other day, two doses. And sprayed on some liquid silver (Activz silver) becuase I was out of Koppertox and I'm 2 hrs from town. She healed up quickly.
On the registered one, we started spraying the silver liquid on it. It has not broke open yet but she is walking on it much better. If she gets worse we will use the LA 200, We just were sure what it was yet because one cow had a stick stuck between her toes lol....
we had another calf come down with pneumonia over the weekend, one dose of LA 200 and that took care of it.
I think alot of it has to do with catching it early. We have our cows right near out house and can see them out the window. They are super friendly and come running when called :) Its nice to be able to check on them that frequently. If they were out on the range it would be much harder to check on them.
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