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NBHA 5D paid 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2? Weird or right?

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-05-17 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: NBHA 5D paid 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2? Weird or right?


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They paid it wrong......Section C of the NBHA rule book
 
3. Divisions are determined by time brackets. The fastest time in the class will set the time for payback and District 00 points.  Whatever district or districts sanction the show their district members’ fastest time will set the time for their district points.  If sanctioned by more than one district each district’s fastest time will set their time for their district points.

1st division - Fastest time in the class and those who place in this division.

2nd division - Fastest time in the class plus one-half second and those who place in this division.

3rd division - Fastest time in the class plus one second and those who place in this division.

4th division - Fastest time in the class plus one and one-half seconds and those who place in this division. 

 5th division - Fastest time in the class plus two seconds and those who place in this division. 
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-05-17 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: NBHA 5D paid 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2? Weird or right?



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Well, I hope you didn't pay the extra money for awards ( which is a joke in itself) because that is going to be a major screw up too.

There is a group near me that puts on a barrel race once in awhile and they mess up the D's every time they have one. It is a crap shoot for sure. It infuriates me so I just don't go. That is what I suggest you do the same.

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bluerose2001
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2015-05-17 9:40 PM
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I would LOVE to see tiebreaker rules in print for NBHA's. Those seem to change according to who they would benefit. I have been the 2nd place of about 6 different first place "ties" in the past 3 years. Not just with the NBHA of course. Just this year hurt they most because the horse I used to tie for 4D open winner passed away as a result of injuries obtained at the 3rd from last show of NBHA season. That just really hurt.
Our payouts for 5D have been entirely 1/2 second splits the entire way though. Seems like someone was definitely confused at your event. 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-05-17 10:40 PM
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NJJ - 2015-05-17 4:20 PM They paid it wrong......Section C of the NBHA rule book

 
3. Divisions are determined by time brackets. The fastest time in the class will set the time for payback and District 00 points.  Whatever district or districts sanction the show their district members’ fastest time will set the time for their district points.  If sanctioned by more than one district each district’s fastest time will set their time for their district points.



1st division - Fastest time in the class and those who place in this division.



2nd division - Fastest time in the class plus one-half second and those who place in this division.



3rd division - Fastest time in the class plus one second and those who place in this division.



4th division - Fastest time in the class plus one and one-half seconds and those who place in this division. 



 5th division - Fastest time in the class plus two seconds and those who place in this division. 

I looked in payout as I didn't think of it being under earned points.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-05-17 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: NBHA 5D paid 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2? Weird or right?



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bluerose2001 - 2015-05-17 9:40 PM

I would LOVE to see tiebreaker rules in print for NBHA's. Those seem to change according to who they would benefit. I have been the 2nd place of about 6 different first place "ties" in the past 3 years. Not just with the NBHA of course. Just this year hurt they most because the horse I used to tie for 4D open winner passed away as a result of injuries obtained at the 3rd from last show of NBHA season. That just really hurt.
Our payouts for 5D have been entirely 1/2 second splits the entire way though. Seems like someone was definitely confused at your event.Β 

Every event should have rules made IN ADVANCE for ties. Making them up when a tie occurs is not far to any one. They do happen----plan ahead.
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Flamin10
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2015-05-18 12:10 AM
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I'm not a member so this wasn't for points. The winner was also not a member. I think out of the 40-50 at the show out of the two sanctioned groups that were participating I only saw member ship numbers next to 4-6 names. It is a buckle series hosted by two local NBHA's I guess to try and boost their membership numbers. Even if it isn't for points, do the rules of how the D's are split still apply?

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-05-18 7:57 AM
Subject: RE: NBHA 5D paid 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2? Weird or right?


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Flamin10 - 2015-05-18 12:10 AM I'm not a member so this wasn't for points. The winner was also not a member. I think out of the 40-50 at the show out of the two sanctioned groups that were participating I only saw member ship numbers next to 4-6 names. It is a buckle series hosted by two local NBHA's I guess to try and boost their membership numbers. Even if it isn't for points, do the rules of how the D's are split still apply?

IF it was not an "approved" NBHA show, they can pretty much do whatever they want. Look in the "Events" on the NBHA website to see if it was a sanctioned show. If it was sanctioned, call the national office.... but here's a "hint....they probably won't give a d*mn as long as they got their money from the show......
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-05-18 9:44 AM
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NJJ - 2015-05-18 7:57 AM

Flamin10 - 2015-05-18 12:10 AM I'm not a member so this wasn't for points. The winner was also not a member. I think out of the 40-50 at the show out of the two sanctioned groups that were participating I only saw member ship numbers next to 4-6 names. It is a buckle series hosted by two local NBHA's I guess to try and boost their membership numbers. Even if it isn't for points, do the rules of how the D's are split still apply?

IF itΒ was not an "approved" NBHA show, they can pretty much do whatever they want. Look in the "Events" on the NBHA website to see if it wasΒ a sanctioned show. If it was sanctioned, call the national office.... but here's a "hint....they probably won't give a d*mn as long as they got their money from the show......

Actually, I think the directors can pretty well do what they want. NBHA rules say the you must enter before the first runner and I think that group does that but some of the directors we have had in the past let anyone enter any time. Another example is wearing a long sleeve shirt and hat is required but most directors do not make you wear them.
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heidiinaz
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-05-18 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: NBHA 5D paid 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/2? Weird or right?


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NBHA is a dinosaur when it comes to barrel racing now. I have not gone to a race in my area in years that was NBHA. The payout never seem to add up and frankly the the people are rude and snappy that put the races on. And now I saw you have to pay for awards. I don't get that at all. Thought that was the whole point of show fees to help pay for awards. I guess you really don't win them if you pay for them
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