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      Location: Beggs, OK | The copper fabric is not heat inducing like you are used to seeing with the ceramic fabric products that are available. I think that's were some people are getting hung up on the "mesh" question. Copper fabric disperses heat and cools the body while increasing circulation. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | My husband wears a Tommie Copper long sleeve shirt to sleep in every night and he says it keeps him comfortable as he has now used it on cold and hot days. That is what I have found. It kind of reminds me of my down jacket. I stay comfortable..not too cold..not too hot. |
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    Location: 31 lengths farms | SG. - 2015-05-20 12:12 PM
run n rate - 2015-05-19 2:04 PM I realize this is what you have at this time, I guess my question is if doing a mesh style is feasible with using copper technology? I'm interested because my little mare does not react well to magnets. she is very uncomfortable in them, and we have tried every type of magnet blanket on the market for her. She wants if off!!!! Not at this time.  An open weave will not give the skin the needed contact. I suffocate easily in the hot sun and this fabric is not effecting me outside. As I previously stated it was tested in the jungles of South America
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       Location: midwest mama | SG. - 2015-05-19 12:23 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-19 12:09 PM
Is copper also safe to leave on for a 24hr period?
Yes. There is no toxicity build up worry like there is with silver. What the body doesn't want, it is easily flushed out
I guess I don't understand this.
I am a nutritionist and people/horses/cows/dogs, etc. can absolutely experience copper toxicity. Can you please explain to me why this product will not create a copper toxicity if overused? The body does not just "flush out" excess copper as you claim, or else copper overload (or "copperiedus") would not be possible. There are many credible medical websites that cover this syndrome, its causes, symptoms and when to call the poison control center. The copper does not have to be ingested to cause copper toxicity - it can also occur due to inhalation and dermal (skin) contact/exposure. Copperiedus is definitely considered a heavy metal toxicity.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be derogatory regarding your product, but I am concerned that because of your comment people will think that overexposure cannot occur. In my opinion, it most certainly can. Using copper as a therapeutic can definitely have some benefits...............IF used in moderation. JMHO............ |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I've been using some MagnaCu quick wraps on my horse to help his front ankles. They have thinned cartilage and tend to get puffy. I have found these work just as well as BOT for him without the heat. You know how when you use something daily, and it's really working, you start wondering if it's really doing anything anymore? Well, with the rain and the kids' schedules the last 2 days of school, I didn't use those wraps for 3 days. His ankles BLEW UP. I had forgotten how bad they could get because they have been looking so good. After a night with them back on, the puff was gone again. Stay tuned because I'm about to test the CuHorse wraps and see how they compare.  |
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                      Location: Here | OldSchoolCowgirl - 2015-05-20 1:26 AM SG. - 2015-05-19 12:23 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-19 12:09 PM Is copper also safe to leave on for a 24hr period? Yes. There is no toxicity build up worry like there is with silver. What the body doesn't want, it is easily flushed out I guess I don't understand this. I am a nutritionist and people/horses/cows/dogs, etc. can absolutely experience copper toxicity. Can you please explain to me why this product will not create a copper toxicity if overused? The body does not just "flush out" excess copper as you claim, or else copper overload (or "copperiedus" ) would not be possible. There are many credible medical websites that cover this syndrome, its causes, symptoms and when to call the poison control center. The copper does not have to be ingested to cause copper toxicity - it can also occur due to inhalation and dermal (skin ) contact/exposure. Copperiedus is definitely considered a heavy metal toxicity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be derogatory regarding your product, but I am concerned that because of your comment people will think that overexposure cannot occur. In my opinion, it most certainly can. Using copper as a therapeutic can definitely have some benefits...............IF used in moderation. JMHO............
This is a very good and fair question. I am sorry I didn't explain it further. CuTEC® is a unique and proprietary copper fiber that utilizes the qualities of copper and permanently binds copper to the fiber matrix of 1) polyester, 2) nylon and 3) spun polyester fibers. Basically this is a Copper of a very pure nature and which is in a proprietary blend of minerals. It is a patented and proven safe level. It is on an ion level not a pure copper blanket. So the level of copper that is absorbed is safe. It is not ingested at high amounts. The copper stays in the fabric and the body takes from the ions what it is wanting. My vet said he would sent me a more detailed explaination later today that will have all the scientifc lingo that you may be looking for. But he said the above is the gest of it. I didn't want you to think I was ignoring this great question. |
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                      Location: Here | Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-20 8:40 AM I've been using some MagnaCu quick wraps on my horse to help his front ankles. They have thinned cartilage and tend to get puffy. I have found these work just as well as BOT for him without the heat. You know how when you use something daily, and it's really working, you start wondering if it's really doing anything anymore? Well, with the rain and the kids' schedules the last 2 days of school, I didn't use those wraps for 3 days. His ankles BLEW UP. I had forgotten how bad they could get because they have been looking so good. After a night with them back on, the puff was gone again. Stay tuned because I'm about to test the CuHorse wraps and see how they compare. 
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       Location: midwest mama | SG. - 2015-05-20 9:39 AM
OldSchoolCowgirl - 2015-05-20 1:26 AM SG. - 2015-05-19 12:23 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-19 12:09 PM Is copper also safe to leave on for a 24hr period? Yes. There is no toxicity build up worry like there is with silver. What the body doesn't want, it is easily flushed out I guess I don't understand this. I am a nutritionist and people/horses/cows/dogs, etc. can absolutely experience copper toxicity. Can you please explain to me why this product will not create a copper toxicity if overused? The body does not just "flush out" excess copper as you claim, or else copper overload (or "copperiedus" ) would not be possible. There are many credible medical websites that cover this syndrome, its causes, symptoms and when to call the poison control center. The copper does not have to be ingested to cause copper toxicity - it can also occur due to inhalation and dermal (skin ) contact/exposure. Copperiedus is definitely considered a heavy metal toxicity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be derogatory regarding your product, but I am concerned that because of your comment people will think that overexposure cannot occur. In my opinion, it most certainly can. Using copper as a therapeutic can definitely have some benefits...............IF used in moderation. JMHO............
This is a very good and fair question. I am sorry I didn't explain it further. CuTEC® is a unique and proprietary copper fiber that utilizes the qualities of copper and permanently binds copper to the fiber matrix of 1 ) polyester, 2 ) nylon and 3 ) spun polyester fibers. Basically this is a Copper of a very pure nature and which is in a proprietary blend of minerals. It is a patented and proven safe level. It is on an ion level not a pure copper blanket. So the level of copper that is absorbed is safe. It is not ingested at high amounts. The copper stays in the fabric and the body takes from the ions what it is wanting. My vet said he would sent me a more detailed explaination later today that will have all the scientifc lingo that you may be looking for. But he said the above is the gest of it. I didn't want you to think I was ignoring this great question.
Thank you so much for addressing my question. I have been doing physiotherapy on horses for almost 30 years and it always concerns me when people sell things and tell people that they can use them 24/7 with no problems. Most of the time that tells me that they don't really understand how their product really works, as many things can definitely be overdone. :)
I would be really interested in some research and more details about your product. If your vet can provide that it would terrific. I am always looking for other things to recommend to my clients, however it has to be something that I agree with, believe in and have experience with - they count on me to do that before I recommend it.
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                      Location: Here | I so understand I hope to post his reply this evening. Thank you again for the question, I am in full agreement with you on the knowledge |
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                      Location: Here | Here is the specs on the fabric for those worried about heat retention 13% Spandex 15% Copper 72% Polyester
It resembles the feel and function of the Under Armour Cool Wear which does not have the copper ions in it So Lycra really isn't the correct term For that confusion I apologize. The Spandex gives it the stretch and rebound ability, a lot like jeans |
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                      Location: Here | OldSchoolCowgirl - 2015-05-20 1:26 AM SG. - 2015-05-19 12:23 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-19 12:09 PM Is copper also safe to leave on for a 24hr period? Yes. There is no toxicity build up worry like there is with silver. What the body doesn't want, it is easily flushed out I guess I don't understand this. I am a nutritionist and people/horses/cows/dogs, etc. can absolutely experience copper toxicity. Can you please explain to me why this product will not create a copper toxicity if overused? The body does not just "flush out" excess copper as you claim, or else copper overload (or "copperiedus" ) would not be possible. There are many credible medical websites that cover this syndrome, its causes, symptoms and when to call the poison control center. The copper does not have to be ingested to cause copper toxicity - it can also occur due to inhalation and dermal (skin ) contact/exposure. Copperiedus is definitely considered a heavy metal toxicity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be derogatory regarding your product, but I am concerned that because of your comment people will think that overexposure cannot occur. In my opinion, it most certainly can. Using copper as a therapeutic can definitely have some benefits...............IF used in moderation. JMHO............ I hope you get your PM. If not please pm me your name and phone number and the inventor said he would be happy to answer all of your questions regarding all of the proven studies and testing regarding safety. To address this further as I am sure others are asking the same question. There has been extensive testing and studies on this product and they have proven to be safe. It is simply a nonissue. If you think of soluble vs nonsoluble, what you get inside your body is soluble (water food). What is the fabric is nonsoluble. Anything soluble can be toxic if ingested in inproper amounts. Even water and alcohol. The CuTec29 technology has been tested and it is strictly nonsoluble and does not have any ill effects. This is one of the reasons we went with this company's technology. They have the documentation and proof. They have the science.
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                      Location: Here | della - 2015-05-20 11:44 AM If a person could only get ONE therapy blanket for a horse thats having SI and bavk issues what would you get and why?
The ultimate which is what I am doing is the CuHorse with either the MagnaCu or PHT layered over it. The reason I say either, is because there will be times you will just want to throw on your MagnaCu and then you still get some Copper therapy. The Layering gives More area of coverage with the CuHorse under the mesh. Also this gives you the ability to just use the CuHorse alone. The CuHorse is safe most Pregnant mares. Again always consult your veterinarian especially when it comes to Pregnant mares. Then comes the usually the bottom line. Budget. This gives all of our customers the best, quality therapy at different budges. And they are all made in USA |
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della - 2015-05-20 11:44 AM If a person could only get ONE therapy blanket for a horse thats having SI and bavk issues what would you get and why?
The ultimate which is what I am doing is the CuHorse with either the MagnaCu or PHT layered over it. The reason I say either, is because there will be times you will just want to throw on your MagnaCu and then you still get some Copper therapy.  The Layering gives More area of coverage with the CuHorse under the mesh. Also this gives you the ability to just use the CuHorse alone. The CuHorse is safe most Pregnant mares. Again always consult your veterinarian especially when it comes to Pregnant mares. Then comes the usually the bottom line. Budget. This gives all of our customers the best, quality therapy at different budges. And they are all made in USAÂ
Does the copper affect the magnets? I thought you could not put PHT on metals? Or am i confused? I just would not want to damage what ever I decide to go with.
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                      Location: Here | della - 2015-05-20 3:33 PM SG. - 2015-05-20 2:25 PM della - 2015-05-20 11:44 AM If a person could only get ONE therapy blanket for a horse thats having SI and bavk issues what would you get and why? The ultimate which is what I am doing is the CuHorse with either the MagnaCu or PHT layered over it. The reason I say either, is because there will be times you will just want to throw on your MagnaCu and then you still get some Copper therapy. The Layering gives More area of coverage with the CuHorse under the mesh. Also this gives you the ability to just use the CuHorse alone. The CuHorse is safe most Pregnant mares. Again always consult your veterinarian especially when it comes to Pregnant mares. Then comes the usually the bottom line. Budget. This gives all of our customers the best, quality therapy at different budges. And they are all made in USA Does the copper affect the magnets? I thought you could not put PHT on metals? Or am i confused? I just would not want to damage what ever I decide to go with. Thank you so much for your response. The material magnets are attracted too is iron, not copper
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                      Location: Here | bmchicky - 2015-05-21 1:47 PM Is it ok to use copper if your or your horse has cancer?
A lot will determine what type ie skin, tumor etc. Please consult with your vet as they will know your horse's medical history and needs. There is a lot of information on google about copper with the various types of cancers. |
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                      Location: Here | OldSchoolCowgirl - 2015-05-20 1:26 AM SG. - 2015-05-19 12:23 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-19 12:09 PM Is copper also safe to leave on for a 24hr period? Yes. There is no toxicity build up worry like there is with silver. What the body doesn't want, it is easily flushed out I guess I don't understand this. I am a nutritionist and people/horses/cows/dogs, etc. can absolutely experience copper toxicity. Can you please explain to me why this product will not create a copper toxicity if overused? The body does not just "flush out" excess copper as you claim, or else copper overload (or "copperiedus" ) would not be possible. There are many credible medical websites that cover this syndrome, its causes, symptoms and when to call the poison control center. The copper does not have to be ingested to cause copper toxicity - it can also occur due to inhalation and dermal (skin ) contact/exposure. Copperiedus is definitely considered a heavy metal toxicity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be derogatory regarding your product, but I am concerned that because of your comment people will think that overexposure cannot occur. In my opinion, it most certainly can. Using copper as a therapeutic can definitely have some benefits...............IF used in moderation. JMHO............
I am hoping you saw my reply and read my pm. I just wanted to make sure you understood that toxicity is not an issue with this product. If you would like to speak us please send me your contact information.  |
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