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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | sooty chestnut is my vote...
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Location: Carpenter, WY | I'd call her a dirty buckskin. I have a similiar mare that was out of a grulla and by a buckskin and has every shade of brown and gold on her you could imagine. |
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| I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say! |
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Location: sunny california | pedigree? maybe champagne?
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Location: sunny california | that stallion has some funny colors in his background. a grullo and dun producing a palomino, but buckskin farther back. i have a feeling this guy has so much color mixed up in him that for generations they didn't really know what they had |
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Location: Memphis, TN | wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 11:19 AM
I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say!
Do you have pictures of her when she was born? What color are her eyes? |
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Location: So. California | You can always send in mane/tail hairs to UC Davis for color testing.
I would include testing for Champagne... |
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| Anniemae - 2015-07-02 11:50 AM
You can always send in mane/tail hairs to UC Davis for color testing.
I would include testing for Champagne...
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| kwanatha - 2015-07-02 9:44 AM
that stallion has some fuonny colors in his background. a grullo and dun producing a palomino, but buckskin farther back. i have a feeling this guy has so much color mixed up in him that for generations they didn't really know what they had
I thought that was odd too but upon further research the grulla that produced the Pali was identified as a smokey grulla and produced other cream offspring out of non cream mares it's just that AQHA doesn't allow colors such as smokey grulla. His sire was a buckskin and dam a red dun so he must have been Ee Dd. I don't know if the Pali was actually a dunalino as they don't register as that either and I have never found a photo but I also haven't found any dun offspring. His sires side has been ranch horses for many generations and its older blood so how accurate things are I am not entirely certain. |
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| barrelracin85 - 2015-07-02 9:48 AM
wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 11:19 AM
I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say!
Do you have pictures of her when she was born? What color are her eyes?
Yes here's a few her eyes were and still are a grayish color
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Location: Memphis, TN | wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 7:05 PM
barrelracin85 - 2015-07-02 9:48 AM
wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 11:19 AM
I am having a heck of a time getting her registered because AQHA can't tell what color she is. I just sent off new photos so we will see what they say!
Do you have pictures of her when she was born? What color are her eyes?
Yes here's a few her eyes were and still are a grayish color
Okay so now I don't feel crazy. I stand by smoky black. This Morgan mare looks identical to your filly and she is a smoky black with the silver gene. Possible your mare had a silver gene that she passed on. I would definitely have her tested so you know what she could produce if ever bred. The cream gene can dilute the black color making it appear more like a liver chestnut.
http://www.brookridgemorgans.com/2007filly.htm
also this is from the aqha website:
WHAT ARE THE COLOR GENETICS OF BLACK?
A BLACK horse must have at least one parent that is BLACK, BROWN, or a color with black points. BLACK horses will either carry one copy of the BLACK gene (represented as Ee, meaning that it also carries one copy of the recessive RED gene) or it will carry two copies of the BLACK gene (represented as EE, meaning that it carries the BLACK gene only with no recessive RED gene). Ee BLACK horses may produce a foal with no black points if bred to another Ee BLACK or if bred to a horse with no black points. However, EE BLACK horses will produce a solid BLACK foal or a foal with black points 100 percent of the time, regardless of the color of the other parent. (The RED FACTOR test can be performed where such a question occurs. Contact AQHA for more information.)
Some BLACKS have a PALOMINO or BUCKSKIN parent. In many cases, these BLACKS will also carry the CREAM DILUTION inherited from one of these parents. These BLACKS will then have the color genetics similar to BUCKSKINS and may produce any of the DOUBLE DILUTE foals if bred to a PALOMINO, BUCKSKIN, or parent known to carry the CREAM DILUTION. BLACKS carrying the CREAM DILUTION may be slightly diluted themselves, usually giving them a color more classified as BROWN. However, some diluted BLACKS will also have their points diluted from ‘true’ black to a brownish appearance, at times being confused with the color CHESTNUT.
Edited by barrelracin85 2015-07-02 7:27 PM
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| I definitely thought smokey black at birth and was pretty sure till this winter when the legs went that reddish shade. The stud owner was adamant that she was grulla even though moms a sorrel and dads just a buckskin. Now we just don't know what to think lol. |
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Location: Arkansas | wishes4kissez - 2015-07-02 7:32 PM
I definitely thought smokey black at birth and was pretty sure till this winter when the legs went that reddish shade. The stud owner was adamant that she was grulla even though moms a sorrel and dads just a buckskin. Now we just don't know what to think lol.
I think she's a pretty girl and only gonna get prettier, no matter what color she finally ends up being!! |
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