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        Location: on my horse | Just like the title says. Have you EVER had a treeless barrel saddle sore a horse and how often do you ride in it and how big are you, small/short tall/lean tall/stout short/stout etc etc etc.
I went to a barrel race yesterday and there were a ton of girls in treeless and I'm very curious! |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
   Location: PNW | I had a Bob Marshall and it sored up my longish backed gelding, right over his loins area.
I am 5'11 and weigh 160ish, so pretty tall for a female - but lean. I also ride with a very hunter/jumper type equitation. It was a 15 inch seat on a 15 hand horse, but he had a long back |
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | My mare is in a jbn. She works great in it. Better than ever.My gelding, first time he bucked with a rider, was in a Lisa Lockhart treeless. And now were in a habit of it....not for sure associating it with the saddle. But it was a first...seemed to fit him great. |
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The Advice Guru
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| ~BINGO~ - 2015-07-13 10:19 PM
My mare is in a jbn. She works great in it. Better than ever.My gelding, first time he bucked with a rider, was in a Lisa Lockhart treeless. And now were in a habit of it....not for sure associating it with the saddle. But it was a first...seemed to fit him great.
When did Lisa Lockhart have a treeless, all I have ever seen is the flex tree |
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Red Bull Agressive
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         Location: North Dakota | No. My sister's horse has just the weirdest back and I couldn't find a tree'd saddle to fit him (actually I'd bet the original Meleta would, but I wasn't familiar w/ those at the time). She got a JBN wide and all the troubles we'd been having were no longer an issue. It was an ok fit on my horse too, I'm just too heavy for a treeless. |
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   Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Yes, the way they are built it puts all the weight on their withers. Mine was very sore and I am a small rider. 5'4 approx 110 lbs. |
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| I have not personally, but I have a really hard to fit mare, so I was talking to my vet about getting one during a chiro adjustment, and she said that IF you must run in one, you should not use it as an every day riding saddle. |
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| Have a friend that rides a treeless on a more narrow build mare. Rider is only 130 ish pounds, thin, and tall. Sores came up on the horses back along the withers. She is changing saddles!
ETA: I am not saying her saddle is bad, it just did not fit her mare.
Edited by scwebster 2015-07-15 3:27 PM
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  Location: Florida | No. My mare was sore before I switched to treeless now has no soreness what so ever. I ride in a Tammy Fisher. |
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 Location: Texas | It sored mine horribly up in the withers. After several chiropractic sessions and changing saddles he got amazingly better. He first signs were getting extremely cinchy. So then I started thinking back at the couple horses I had ridden in my treeless that also had gotten cinchy after riden in it. I was a little slow to figure it out. Needless to say, I no longer use it. I really enjoyed to ride in it. I'm 5'3 & 125 lbs. I do see that it could be beneficial for a few VERY hard to fit horses. |
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | cheryl makofka - 2015-07-13 8:24 PM
~BINGO~ - 2015-07-13 10:19 PM
My mare is in a jbn. She works great in it. Better than ever.My gelding, first time he bucked with a rider, was in a Lisa Lockhart treeless. And now were in a habit of it....not for sure associating it with the saddle. But it was a first...seemed to fit him great.
When did Lisa Lockhart have a treeless, all I have ever seen is the flex tree
Oops, geesh. I'm sorry. This is where I insert foot in mouth. You're correct. Apparently I don't pay attention to what I'm typing. |
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 Poor Cracker Girl
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      Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | I always thought they would sore one up. Refused to try one. Then I went through a bunch of horses, had saddles that fit nobody, sold them all and bought a Jackie treeless in a fit of rage one day. And I love it. Past muscle atrophy is filling in behind the shoulders and they're stronger through the backs then they've ever been.
I did have a colt get sore through the lower back/loin region after he propped pretty hard and launched me the other day. I came back down and landed hard. That sored him up for a few days but that's the only time I've had one come up sore from the treeless. |
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        Location: on my horse | That's kind of what i was thinking, that it could sore a horse's wither area or right under were you sit or if you had to over cinch could sore down there
Edited by redmansmyman11 2015-07-14 5:49 PM
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 Just a Yankee
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    Location: Some where I haven't left yet | NO, but I use a quality pad that is more then adequate and a sports cincha so that I do not ever have to over tighten a cinch. |
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 You get what you give
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     Location: Texas | i had a vet tell me to avoid flex trees or treeless saddles with horses who have kissing spine. but i may be putting one of mine back in a flex tree. I don't have any treeless saddles. |
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 Off the Wall Wacky
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         Location: Louisiana | It took me forever to figure out T-Bo's shoulder stiffness, and eventually pain, was from my saddle. My farrier suggested I try a treeless, I borrowed his wife's and immediately saw a difference. T-Bo made an amazing run that night, still one of our prettiest. I bought a used Bob and ran it for a few years and just moved up to a brand spankin' new Tammy. T-Bo hasn't been sore through his back at all. I weigh about 160 right now, which is on the high end for me. I'm typically 145-150. I use a Saddleright pad and an Airride cinch. |
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     Location: Missouri | Yes |
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