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 I Chore in Chucks
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Location: MD | finally after a year plus battle with lameness issues and vets giving me the same treatment options over and over that didn't work, (a new vet) we are getting him injected later today. I'm painfully waiting at home to leave and am full of nervous energy. he's getting both fronts injected.
never had a horse injected before, will there be any sort of recovery time? IE stall him, cold hosing... etc? I know he'll need to be re-injected every 6 mos-1yr depending on how long it lasts him. but other then that my fancy new vet and I didn't get too in depth with that conversation. So what are your experiences?? |
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Location: Louisiana | My vet just advises leaving him stalled overnight and then no riding for a few days. He has always made sure that I knew it will be at least 7 days before I notice a difference. Knowing that, I wait at least 7 days, maybe more like 10 so I know for sure he isn't feeling any pain. Of course this last time I waited too long and he was really hurting. So it took a few rides to get that out of his head.
T-Bo get his right front coffin joint and ankle done. The first one was nearly a year ago, the second 8 months later. As sore as he was, I'll be going back closer to 6 months for a checkup. I also ordered Pentosan Gold to see if I can get a little time out of the injections.
T-Bo's issues are mainly bc of his conformation per my vet. He isn't perfect and it's just wear and tear. |
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| My vet always says 2 days completely off, no riding, etc. THen walk on flat surface couple days, then full work 5-7 days after injection. If your horse is bad you will see an improvement almost over night. I also used to have mine done every 6 mos but with pentosan Gold I was able to go a year. You can only inject the coffin joint so many times before it destroys the joint. It is a high motion joint. Hocks can be repeated over and over with no ill effects... Each time the coffin joint is injected the interval between injections will get less and less. Mine was a year this first time. Second one might last 6-8 mos. Eventually they won't work more than few weeks.
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 The Bling Princess
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Location: North Dakota | Mine felt like a million bucks after about 3 days by the way he was blasting around the pasture, but I gave him 5 days off anyway:) |
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| I used to inject coffins on my horse & vet said 3 days stall rest with hand walking then light riding 2-3 days.
Fortunately we discovered what was causing the need for injections & got that corrected & we are no longer injecting coffins! |
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Location: Central Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-07-21 11:52 AM
My vet always says 2 days completely off, no riding, etc. THen walk on flat surface couple days, then full work 5-7 days after injection. If your horse is bad you will see an improvement almost over night. I also used to have mine done every 6 mos but with pentosan Gold I was able to go a year. You can only inject the coffin joint so many times before it destroys the joint. It is a high motion joint. Hocks can be repeated over and over with no ill effects... Each time the coffin joint is injected the interval between injections will get less and less. Mine was a year this first time. Second one might last 6-8 mos. Eventually they won't work more than few weeks.
This and I too wanted to mention that repeated injections is probably going to degarde the joint. |
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Location: Central Texas | WannaRipIt - 2015-07-21 11:59 AM I used to inject coffins on my horse & vet said 3 days stall rest with hand walking then light riding 2-3 days. Fortunately we discovered what was causing the need for injections & got that corrected & we are no longer injecting coffins!
Me too! Mine ended up actually being a navicular bone issue so we do Tildren or Osphos along with Pentosan injections. |
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The Advice Guru
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| What are you injecting into the coffin? You NEED to know this.
For coffin joints my vet only uses HA (there are different grades a good grade will cost 100+ just for the med) Trimisclione, and an antibiotic.
I do not suggest betasone, cortisone, or depo into the joint as all of these have been proven to destroy cartilage.
As someone said multiple injections deteriorate the joint. Yes it does especially if you use the above, not so much if you use Trimisclione and HA, HA reduces inflammation so less scar tissue is developed, and Trimisclione has been proven to help cartilage regenerate.
I had a horse head bobbing lame as a 6 yr old had degenerative arthritis in pastern and coffin joints, injected him approx every 6 months till the age of 15 he was a 1d horse and sound, no antiinflammatories.
At the age of 18 pulled out of pasture injected and still placed in all but 2 HSR in barrels, still sound and hasn't been injected since. He is 23 now is a little sore, but not sore enough for me to catch the bugger.
Good luck, if you have questions you can pm me.
Also it is good to get a booster injection a month after the first then do the every 6.
Also look into giving injectible glucosamine (it is cheap) weekly as this will help prolong your injections. |
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| ampratt - 2015-07-21 12:36 PM
WannaRipIt - 2015-07-21 11:59 AM I used to inject coffins on my horse & vet said 3 days stall rest with hand walking then light riding 2-3 days. Fortunately we discovered what was causing the need for injections & got that corrected & we are no longer injecting coffins!
Me too! Mine ended up actually being a navicular bone issue so we do Tildren or Osphos along with Pentosan injections.
Mine was the way he was shod ?? took me 3 farriers but I finally got one that understood & could fix it!! |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | WannaRipIt - 2015-07-21 2:06 PM
ampratt - 2015-07-21 12:36 PM
WannaRipIt - 2015-07-21 11:59 AM I used to inject coffins on my horse & vet said 3 days stall rest with hand walking then light riding 2-3 days. Fortunately we discovered what was causing the need for injections & got that corrected & we are no longer injecting coffins!
Me too! Mine ended up actually being a navicular bone issue so we do Tildren or Osphos along with Pentosan injections.
Mine was the way he was shod ?? took me 3 farriers but I finally got one that understood & could fix it!!
My horse has a bone spur at the top of his coffin bone, injected it, vet said 2 days stall rest, 1 out to pasture the next day, light ride the day after. But I have him a week off. Also started a 7 dose series of adequan. We figured our problem was being caused by hoof imbalances. Too much toe , no heel, cramped shoes, too much tork to break over, getting a quicker breakover is a must for my horses case! Got a new farrier and some adequan have done the trick! He rides like a 6 yr old now! |
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I Chore in Chucks
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Location: MD | cheryl makofka - 2015-07-21 1:50 PM
What are you injecting into the coffin? You NEED to know this.
For coffin joints my vet only uses HA (there are different grades a good grade will cost 100+ just for the med) Trimisclione, and an antibiotic.
I do not suggest betasone, cortisone, or depo into the joint as all of these have been proven to destroy cartilage.
As someone said multiple injections deteriorate the joint. Yes it does especially if you use the above, not so much if you use Trimisclione and HA, HA reduces inflammation so less scar tissue is developed, and Trimisclione has been proven to help cartilage regenerate.
I had a horse head bobbing lame as a 6 yr old had degenerative arthritis in pastern and coffin joints, injected him approx every 6 months till the age of 15 he was a 1d horse and sound, no antiinflammatories.
At the age of 18 pulled out of pasture injected and still placed in all but 2 HSR in barrels, still sound and hasn't been injected since. He is 23 now is a little sore, but not sore enough for me to catch the bugger.
Good luck, if you have questions you can pm me.
Also it is good to get a booster injection a month after the first then do the every 6.
Also look into giving injectible glucosamine (it is cheap) weekly as this will help prolong your injections.
Well not to sound butt kissy. But my nose is brown! Many here, including myself, respect your wealth of knowledge and This was a breath of fresh air to read as this is exactly what he got today. Done in a surgical environment, he will go back to get looked at in 10 days and then reoccurring appointments to assess him every 6 months. We've got the injectable glucosamine and hopefully this will be a great experience. |
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Location: Texas | One day off then back to regular. |
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