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Location: Jersey Girl | I have never gotten moldy but its always extremely dusty. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Mine have always had a lot of crushed leaves and "dusty", but never any moldy ones. I like using them if I'm hauling because the 40lbs is easier to tote around and less mess to deal with when you have them in the plastic. My only issue was the price. I bought enough 1st cutting at a feed store to get me thru the summer and when I have a horse that needs alfalfa I'll make the two hour trip to a hay dealer and stock up before I'll pay for the Standlee as my primary source of alfalfa... But I wouldn't mind it as a short term fix. |
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Location: West Texas | Here is a random analysis that one of our dealers had tested. It is the Mustang Sally. This is premium hay, that is why it works so well. I can guarantee this to be premium horse quality forage. With our cube you can even mash it up and look for yourself what kind of quality it is. Most people, let alone vets have not seen a cube quite like the Omnis (or even Mustang Sally). It was invented by us only 5 months ago and only been on the market for about 4. Therefore unless they have seen or had experience, I would be cautious of it being compared to other hard and blended cubes. You are absolutely right about pellets. I don't know of any reasonably priced pellet that is all premium horse quality hay. That is not me being biased. We do have pelleted alfalfa that we sell, but honestly, the cube is better forage.
The MS tested at 17% protein and 58% TDN!
The Omnis tested at 14.5% protein (due to the oats) and 3.2% fat (due to the flax)
The flax is somewhat unique to Omnis. While many other products have flax, I am not aware of a single one, besides straight flax products, that has the recommended dosage, when fed to the tag instructions. Flax is recommended at a level of 4-8 ounces daily with a maximum recomendation of 16 ounces. Omnis can be fed from 8-10 lbs daily along with other hay. That is around 4 ounces. As sole ration most horses are fed 18-20 lbs. That is approximately 8 ounces. To exceed the maximum safe daily dose of 16 ounces, you would have to feed a whopping 40 lbs of Omnis.
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Location: Willows, CA | We have a number of customers feeding either Standlee compressed bales or the Danco cubes along with Renew Gold. In general both are getting good results, especially with coastal hay. The Danco cubes seem to be really gaining ground with customers, and it makes sense that they would from the analysis shown above. I love the soft cube concept, and years ago produced a alfalfa / Timothy cube from Canada with the same softness goal. I have not had any of our customers complain about Standlee quality, so perhaps those issues come from dealers that do not turn them over fast enough. Either way, these products are a nice way to slow down the transit time in the hind gut resulting in more complete digestion of coastal Bermuda hay. |
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Location: Here | I bought some last year and they were dry crumbly and just terrible
I hope others have had good results but my mare wouldn't touch it |
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Location: Here | Tdove - 2015-07-24 4:59 PM Here is a random analysis that one of our dealers had tested. It is the Mustang Sally. This is premium hay, that is why it works so well. I can guarantee this to be premium horse quality forage. With our cube you can even mash it up and look for yourself what kind of quality it is. Most people, let alone vets have seen a cube quite like the Omnis (or even Mustang Sally). It was invented by us only 5 months ago and only been on the market for about 4. Therefore unless they have seen or had experience, I would be cautious of it being compared to other hard and blended cubes. You are absolutely right about pellets. I don't know of any reasonably priced pellet that is all premium horse quality hay. That is not me being biased. We do have pelleted alfalfa that we sell, but honestly, the cube is better forage. The MS tested at 17% protein and 58% TDN! The Omnis tested at 14.5% (due to the oats) protein and 3.2% fat (due to the flax) The flax is somewhat unique to Omnis. While many other products have flax, I am not aware of a single one, besides straight flax products, that has the recommended dosage, when fed to the tag instructions. Flax is recommended at a level of 4-8 ounces daily with a maximum recomendation of 16 ounces. Omnis can be fed from 8-10 lbs daily along with other hay. That is around 4 ounces. As sole ration most horses are fed 18-20 lbs. That is approximately 8 ounces. To exceed the maximum safe daily dose of 16 ounces, you would have to feed a whopping 40 lbs of Omnis.
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Location: SE Louisiana | RacingQH - 2015-07-24 1:22 PM
I was given some compressed alfalfa, it was TERRIBLE. Very bleached out (inside), and very stemmy. Even my goats didn't want to eat it.
Baling hay, believe it or not, is an art form. I would assume they have a rep that monitors the hay they use and how it is put up. It is mind-blowing how many variables there are.
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| Tdove - 2015-07-24 4:59 PM
Here is a random analysis that one of our dealers had tested. It is the Mustang Sally. This is premium hay, that is why it works so well. I can guarantee this to be premium horse quality forage. With our cube you can even mash it up and look for yourself what kind of quality it is. Most people, let alone vets have not seen a cube quite like the Omnis (or even Mustang Sally). It was invented by us only 5 months ago and only been on the market for about 4. Therefore unless they have seen or had experience, I would be cautious of it being compared to other hard and blended cubes. You are absolutely right about pellets. I don't know of any reasonably priced pellet that is all premium horse quality hay. That is not me being biased. We do have pelleted alfalfa that we sell, but honestly, the cube is better forage.
The MS tested at 17% protein and 58% TDN!
The Omnis tested at 14.5% protein (due to the oats) and 3.2% fat (due to the flax)
The flax is somewhat unique to Omnis. While many other products have flax, I am not aware of a single one, besides straight flax products, that has the recommended dosage, when fed to the tag instructions. Flax is recommended at a level of 4-8 ounces daily with a maximum recomendation of 16 ounces. Omnis can be fed from 8-10 lbs daily along with other hay. That is around 4 ounces. As sole ration most horses are fed 18-20 lbs. That is approximately 8 ounces. To exceed the maximum safe daily dose of 16 ounces, you would have to feed a whopping 40 lbs of Omnis.
Thank you Tdove, that was the information I was looking for. |
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