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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-01 5:23 PM
Itsme - 2015-09-01 5:02 PM Bear - 2015-09-01 12:52 PM One word: Tyranny. What happened to the laws are laws stance? Does that only apply to inner city blacks? Β The problem here is the current interpretation of the law by the EPA and the rule written for the law by the EPA. Β It violates the spirit of the legislation Congress intended when it was passed. Β This issue happens a lot, but this is the worst abuse of power yet. Β They're testing boundaries, I think.
Thats ALL govt, not just the EPA. I spread my hate equally.  | |
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| komet. - 2015-09-01 3:15 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-01 3:02 PM
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3canstorun - 2015-09-01 2:07 PM
You control water, you control everything.Β Β
So, if land owners wanted to, they could dam up headwaters to rivers like the Snake and the Yellowstone?
Navigable waterways and what is a "significant nexus" by definition is the crux of the problem with the way the EPA wrote the rule. As it stands, drainage ditches, mud puddles, and other sometimes holds water areas are subject to the clean water act. We can't function. There's a farmer in California being sued for shallow tilling and planting a wheat field 8 MILES from the Sacremento River.
Do you mean they have taken control of the ENTIRE watershed in the USA? Wow.... I bet they won't float THAT law for very long.
Yes, that's exactly what they've done.
Let's take this one step farther.
Rain falls on the roof of your home, and runs off. That makes your home part of the watershed and puts it under the jurisdiction and control of the EPA. The implications of this are mind-boggling.
Ya think?
http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/04/epa-mandates-rain-tax-for-maryl... | |
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        Location: Carpenter, WY | Bear - 2015-09-01 9:52 AM So this Wyoming rancher builds a stock pond and the EPA fines him $37,000 a day. So far he owes them something like $16,000,000. It looks like he dug out the stock pond for his livestock, and dammed up a creek, with an outflow tract. The water going out is said to be cleaner than the water going in. He's taking them to court. When I saw this on the news last night I wanted to throw my shoe through the TV. I'm pretty sure our news said that at the time he dug the pond he had all the necessary permits that were required at that time too....
http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2015/08/28/news/01top_08-28-15.txt#.VeZYdzhRF9A
Edited by teehaha 2015-09-01 9:01 PM
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Sh!t like this incident is why there is such a groundswell of support for almost anyone who is "anti establishment", and "non-politician". This is why so many polls show such overwhelming support for people like Trump, Fiorina, and Carson. You have someone like Trump stirring up such massive crowds and surging ahead of everyone else, even though he is a walking contradiction.....a "flip flopper" on steroids. People don't care....they want someone to take a wrecking ball to the status quo and the establishment.
Apart from national defense, everything our government does just makes people's lives worse. In fact even national defense is weakening. | |
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