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canchaser14
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2015-09-09 12:37 AM
Subject: " money barrel " tips


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Hey guys. Been having some trouble with my first barrel the end of this season. As my horse got running harder she started to blow by her first barrel. Any tips on how to get her to rate her first and turn it with some speed ? thanks
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clampitt
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2015-09-09 7:13 AM
Subject: RE: " money barrel " tips



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 Running through the turn. Lot if times what I found is. The harder they run the more people will pull. And then they push harder. Its a comfort zone your out of to a degree As them to step up and they do. Then going faster. The rider pulls more to bring the horse back to where they are comfortable. The horse is a little confused.Put the set back in the horse. They all work slow its when speed is added the problems start.Speed disrupts everything. Send the horse to first and about 15ft or so from first barrel. Set him hard. And set still. Let the horse settle just a little Pet him rub his mane. Turn switch off for a bit. When he settles Walk the turn. Do it at all of them. And untill you feel him at the rate point slow up on his own. Its same as you driving your truck 70mph and come to a 30mph turn. You cant make the turn running 70. You let off the foot peddle that rates the truck. Lets you get ready to make the turn. Then when get to turn you turn. After safley through turn mash the peddle.Horse has to go to rate spot settle get ready for turn,but not start turn until in position. Then goSet back that far. Horse running hard can cover that much ground or more in one stride. If rate closer then the next step they are by the barrel a stride or two.Hard to make that up. Out of our comfort zone. Back into our comfort zone. Something to think about. Cant push an pull at the same timeThis one thing I teach. And use your feet more. Be still. Let the horse work.Speed disrupts everythingFood for thought
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-09-09 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: " money barrel " tips



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clampitt - 2015-09-09 7:13 AM

 Running through the turn. Lot if times what I found is. The harder they run the more people will pull. And then they push harder. Its a comfort zone your out of to a degree As them to step up and they do. Then going faster. The rider pulls more to bring the horse back to where they are comfortable. The horse is a little confused.Put the set back in the horse. They all work slow its when speed is added the problems start.Speed disrupts everything. Send the horse to first and about 15ft or so from first barrel. Set him hard. And set still. Let the horse settle just a little Pet him rub his mane. Turn switch off for a bit. When he settles Walk the turn. Do it at all of them. And untill you feel him at the rate point slow up on his own. Its same as you driving your truck 70mph and come to a 30mph turn. You cant make the turn running 70. You let off the foot peddle that rates the truck. Lets you get ready to make the turn. Then when get to turn you turn. After safley through turn mash the peddle.Horse has to go to rate spot settle get ready for turn,but not start turn until in position. Then goSet back that far. Horse running hard can cover that much ground or more in one stride. If rate closer then the next step they are by the barrel a stride or two.Hard to make that up. Out of our comfort zone. Back into our comfort zone. Something to think about. Cant push an pull at the same timeThis one thing I teach. And use your feet more. Be still. Let the horse work.Speed disrupts everythingFood for thought

I like this^^^^
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-09-09 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: " money barrel " tips



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I had difficulty with my horse this season too, as he started running harder to the 1st barrel. 

This is the best way I could explain it. His energy would still be going "up the fence" and so that's where he'd go. I have to re-direct his energy to go "around" the barrel. I really make sure that I am LOOKING with my body, and lifting with my inside hand. My horse loves to turn so I really don't need to rate him any more; I just have to do the right job to re-direct his energy around the barrel, and not going too far down the pen.

Usually it turns into an "oh $h!t" moment at the first barrel haha, for myself mentally, but if I seem to get my body posture right and my hands right, then he follows in no problem. He knows his job. Now I have to do mine.

Here was a run early in the year. Was purely rider error that we didn't nail that 1st barrel.
https://youtu.be/yKh6pVnuobg

When I get my act together, he turns it great!
https://youtu.be/TX8lAe1-mYs

So I would really evaluate how you are riding and see if there is something you need to do different as the rider, to nail that money barrel. At least that's how it was for me and my horse. He's really broke so if my body is telling him to run past the first barrel, that's exactly what he will do. I have to be really careful with my cues.




 
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Ridenrun4745
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2015-09-09 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: " money barrel " tips


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Make sure you're giving him enough room - if he isn't used to running through the turn, he may need more room behind the barrel to keep his momentum going, until he learns to balance.
If he doesn't have enough room, he may get anxious about turning and then run up the fence instead.
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LAC
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2015-09-09 11:27 AM
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I'm old school......my suggestion would be to make sure you are giving him enough room to turn the first. Some horses can run strait at it and some need a little more arc to the first. Most of the time when I go past my first its because I'm out of position and going to strait to it.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-09-09 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: " money barrel " tips



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My suggestion is to slow him down enough that you have control. If you cannot control the horse there is no point in running in that fast. When you get it down at a slower speed then you can speed up. Another thing is that horses actually have a tendency to go right where you are looking. If you look up the fence that is where the horse is going to go. If you look where you want to go right as you get to the barrel (do not look at the barrel) the horse will go where you are looking.
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-09-09 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: " money barrel " tips



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I can relate. My first barrel is currently touch and go. 

Ed Wright really helped me with my first....it is all about shortening that stride. More room around the barrel will cost you more time as compared to educating your horse to shorten its stride.

Other Ed gurus can correct me if I am wrong, but your approach to the first should be 6 ft, then maintain a 2 ft. circle around. A finished horse's stride will be the shortest on the backside, and shortening the stride is not to be confused with slowing down!!! Biggest misconception out there...

Anyways, I guess my suggestion should be to look up some resources on Ed's methods, between him and dressage lessons I am starting to get the feel on how to educate a horse to correctly shorten the stride. That is where I would start it has greatly helped me. :-)

Good luck, enjoy the process!
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