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Some other guy beat Courtney Duncan's run down in Brazil. I saw the video but I don't remember his name. He was the one who ran the .564. I think it might have been in the BHN but not anywhere else. |
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Location: Alberta | bccanchaser16 - 2015-09-26 10:00 PM Some other guy beat Courtney Duncan's run down in Brazil. I saw the video but I don't remember his name. He was the one who ran the .564. I think it might have been in the BHN but not anywhere else.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ozYGHI640
July 2015 A Brazilian
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Location: Oregon | Oh yeah I forgot that one. I don't understand how they can go so much faster down there. That's just ugly. Brittany's run was beautiful.
I wonder what the fastest outdoor run is.
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| Thanks NTO! Just such a pretty run too! She really sat so balanced on her especially going across the pen to the 2nd, going into it, and around it. She had great body position and sat in the middle with her feet in such great position too. What a hand!
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| crapshooter - 2015-09-26 11:37 PM Oh yeah I forgot that one. I don't understand how they can go so much faster down there. That's just ugly. Brittany's run was beautiful.
I wonder what the fastest outdoor run is. If I remember correctly, they run a standard pattern at every event no matter whether it is a barrel race or a rodeo. My understanding was they practice on a standard pattern and always compete on a standard pattern. I think they have a limited number of arenas too. I guess there aren't as many variables with the format they use. Horses aren't having to adjust to different pattern sizes and arenas from run to run. I don't know. Just rambling. I could be making this all up too. lol
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| crapshooter - 2015-09-26 9:37 PM
Oh yeah I forgot that one. I don't understand how they can go so much faster down there. That's just ugly. Brittany's run was beautiful.Â
 I wonder what the fastest outdoor run is. Â
They go faster in Brazil because they understand its a speed event and you don't get time off for being pretty. It astounds me how many people focus on how a run looks. Yes a smooth run (like Brittany's) can be really fast. But at the end of the day, you are being timed when you cross the line. Style doesn't really matter, but more often than not I hear people ask "How did my run look". It doesn't matter! Its a speed event. The end game is to go fast. I've seen Brittany have some really terrible runs (and on that horse!), but she is always trying to go FAST. When the speed and smoothness comes together you get one of these runs.
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Location: California | crapshooter - 2015-09-26 9:37 PM Oh yeah I forgot that one. I don't understand how they can go so much faster down there. That's just ugly. Brittany's run was beautiful.
I wonder what the fastest outdoor run is.
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Location: Oregon | 3 To Go - 2015-09-26 10:03 PM crapshooter - 2015-09-26 9:37 PM Oh yeah I forgot that one. I don't understand how they can go so much faster down there. That's just ugly. Brittany's run was beautiful.
I wonder what the fastest outdoor run is. They go faster in Brazil because they understand its a speed event and you don't get time off for being pretty. It astounds me how many people focus on how a run looks. Yes a smooth run (like Brittany's ) can be really fast. But at the end of the day, you are being timed when you cross the line. Style doesn't really matter, but more often than not I hear people ask "How did my run look". It doesn't matter! Its a speed event. The end game is to go fast. I've seen Brittany have some really terrible runs (and on that horse! ), but she is always trying to go FAST. When the speed and smoothness comes together you get one of these runs.
Actually that horse was amazing and it was a beautiful run, the jockey was just quite exuberant on the way home and I couldn't look away apparently.
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Location: Oregon | sodapop - 2015-09-26 10:01 PM crapshooter - 2015-09-26 11:37 PM Oh yeah I forgot that one. I don't understand how they can go so much faster down there. That's just ugly. Brittany's run was beautiful.
I wonder what the fastest outdoor run is. If I remember correctly, they run a standard pattern at every event no matter whether it is a barrel race or a rodeo. My understanding was they practice on a standard pattern and always compete on a standard pattern. I think they have a limited number of arenas too. I guess there aren't as many variables with the format they use. Horses aren't having to adjust to different pattern sizes and arenas from run to run. I don't know. Just rambling. I could be making this all up too. lol
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Location: SP, Brazil | I have lived in Brazil for 4 years now and I can answer your questions.
1. When I came here I thought they rode "ugly" too but they have improved and the truth is they are great hands. How many "pretty" but super fast runs have you seen Troy Crumrine, Talmadge Green, or Cody Bauserman make? I still don't like the style that they have here, but I can't argue it's effectiveness. These guys know how to get 100% out of these horses.
2. They do run shows on standard patterns but not very many rodeos. Usually the rodeo arenas are 15-16 second patterns. And here rodeo horses value less than the regular show horses.
3. Here the majority of the riders are professional trainers so usually even at an outdoor arena you need to be a 17.2 or faster to place in the 1D. And these guys usually have lots of horses to ride so it's tough to beat them. There are very few - if any, people that work 9-5 and then train their horse on the side and then go run. These trainers only train so imagine going to every jackpot and running against 100 Troy Crumrines. The owners of the horses let the trainers run them and they only ride the horse during the amateur or female classes.
4. The up and coming, and even some of the horses now are the best bred horses in the world so you put that with these talented trainers and you get very fast times. Just like Brittany and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
5. I'm happy the record is back in the States. Brittany's run was beautiful and restored my faith that I am riding and training correctly. Getting beat by these guys can be very humbling and frustrating.
6. One more tadbit of info, in Brazil there is a lot of testing so the majority of these horses run free of any medicine and there is a weight limit of 150. So you and your tack must weigh 150 or more.
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Location: Mountains of VA | Sharp - 2015-09-27 6:48 AM I have lived in Brazil for 4 years now and I can answer your questions. 1. When I came here I thought they rode "ugly" too but they have improved and the truth is they are great hands. How many "pretty" but super fast runs have you seen Troy Crumrine, Talmadge Green, or Cody Bauserman make? I still don't like the style that they have here, but I can't argue it's effectiveness. These guys know how to get 100% out of these horses. 2. They do run shows on standard patterns but not very many rodeos. Usually the rodeo arenas are 15-16 second patterns. And here rodeo horses value less than the regular show horses. 3. Here the majority of the riders are professional trainers so usually even at an outdoor arena you need to be a 17.2 or faster to place in the 1D. And these guys usually have lots of horses to ride so it's tough to beat them. There are very few - if any, people that work 9-5 and then train their horse on the side and then go run. These trainers only train so imagine going to every jackpot and running against 100 Troy Crumrines. The owners of the horses let the trainers run them and they only ride the horse during the amateur or female classes. 4. The up and coming, and even some of the horses now are the best bred horses in the world so you put that with these talented trainers and you get very fast times. Just like Brittany and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. 5. I'm happy the record is back in the States. Brittany's run was beautiful and restored my faith that I am riding and training correctly. Getting beat by these guys can be very humbling and frustrating. 6. One more tadbit of info, in Brazil there is a lot of testing so the majority of these horses run free of any medicine and there is a weight limit of 150. So you and your tack must weigh 150 or more.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Sharp - 2015-09-27 6:48 AM I have lived in Brazil for 4 years now and I can answer your questions. 1. When I came here I thought they rode "ugly" too but they have improved and the truth is they are great hands. How many "pretty" but super fast runs have you seen Troy Crumrine, Talmadge Green, or Cody Bauserman make? I still don't like the style that they have here, but I can't argue it's effectiveness. These guys know how to get 100% out of these horses. 2. They do run shows on standard patterns but not very many rodeos. Usually the rodeo arenas are 15-16 second patterns. And here rodeo horses value less than the regular show horses. 3. Here the majority of the riders are professional trainers so usually even at an outdoor arena you need to be a 17.2 or faster to place in the 1D. And these guys usually have lots of horses to ride so it's tough to beat them. There are very few - if any, people that work 9-5 and then train their horse on the side and then go run. These trainers only train so imagine going to every jackpot and running against 100 Troy Crumrines. The owners of the horses let the trainers run them and they only ride the horse during the amateur or female classes. 4. The up and coming, and even some of the horses now are the best bred horses in the world so you put that with these talented trainers and you get very fast times. Just like Brittany and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. 5. I'm happy the record is back in the States. Brittany's run was beautiful and restored my faith that I am riding and training correctly. Getting beat by these guys can be very humbling and frustrating. 6. One more tadbit of info, in Brazil there is a lot of testing so the majority of these horses run free of any medicine and there is a weight limit of 150. So you and your tack must weigh 150 or more.
Thank's for that info and your right, Brazil has imported MANY of our very best horses. I am wondering though on the weight....you and your tack must weigh 150 or MORE? If thats the case, what if the weight isnt there? Do they add weights? |
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Location: sunny california | ThreeCorners - 2015-09-27 8:40 AM Sharp - 2015-09-27 6:48 AM I have lived in Brazil for 4 years now and I can answer your questions. 1. When I came here I thought they rode "ugly" too but they have improved and the truth is they are great hands. How many "pretty" but super fast runs have you seen Troy Crumrine, Talmadge Green, or Cody Bauserman make? I still don't like the style that they have here, but I can't argue it's effectiveness. These guys know how to get 100% out of these horses. 2. They do run shows on standard patterns but not very many rodeos. Usually the rodeo arenas are 15-16 second patterns. And here rodeo horses value less than the regular show horses. 3. Here the majority of the riders are professional trainers so usually even at an outdoor arena you need to be a 17.2 or faster to place in the 1D. And these guys usually have lots of horses to ride so it's tough to beat them. There are very few - if any, people that work 9-5 and then train their horse on the side and then go run. These trainers only train so imagine going to every jackpot and running against 100 Troy Crumrines. The owners of the horses let the trainers run them and they only ride the horse during the amateur or female classes. 4. The up and coming, and even some of the horses now are the best bred horses in the world so you put that with these talented trainers and you get very fast times. Just like Brittany and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. 5. I'm happy the record is back in the States. Brittany's run was beautiful and restored my faith that I am riding and training correctly. Getting beat by these guys can be very humbling and frustrating. 6. One more tadbit of info, in Brazil there is a lot of testing so the majority of these horses run free of any medicine and there is a weight limit of 150. So you and your tack must weigh 150 or more. Thank's for that info and your right, Brazil has imported MANY of our very best horses. I am wondering though on the weight....you and your tack must weigh 150 or MORE? If thats the case, what if the weight isnt there? Do they add weights?
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Sharp - 2015-09-27 6:48 AM I have lived in Brazil for 4 years now and I can answer your questions. 1. When I came here I thought they rode "ugly" too but they have improved and the truth is they are great hands. How many "pretty" but super fast runs have you seen Troy Crumrine, Talmadge Green, or Cody Bauserman make? I still don't like the style that they have here, but I can't argue it's effectiveness. These guys know how to get 100% out of these horses. 2. They do run shows on standard patterns but not very many rodeos. Usually the rodeo arenas are 15-16 second patterns. And here rodeo horses value less than the regular show horses. 3. Here the majority of the riders are professional trainers so usually even at an outdoor arena you need to be a 17.2 or faster to place in the 1D. And these guys usually have lots of horses to ride so it's tough to beat them. There are very few - if any, people that work 9-5 and then train their horse on the side and then go run. These trainers only train so imagine going to every jackpot and running against 100 Troy Crumrines. The owners of the horses let the trainers run them and they only ride the horse during the amateur or female classes. 4. The up and coming, and even some of the horses now are the best bred horses in the world so you put that with these talented trainers and you get very fast times. Just like Brittany and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. 5. I'm happy the record is back in the States. Brittany's run was beautiful and restored my faith that I am riding and training correctly. Getting beat by these guys can be very humbling and frustrating. 6. One more tadbit of info, in Brazil there is a lot of testing so the majority of these horses run free of any medicine and there is a weight limit of 150. So you and your tack must weigh 150 or more.
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Location: The Great Northwest | I said Whoa - 2015-09-26 7:25 PM I am the show secretary (along with my mom Carol Crowder) We measured after the Slot Race tonight with the WPRA Circuit Director in the arena with us, at she confirms it is a standard pattern. Brittany Pozzi and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang ran a 16.479 tonight in the Mile Hi Barrel Horse Associations "Mile Hi Showdown Slot Race" Earlier today she ran a 16.7 on the same horse to win the open.
Wouldn't it be appropiate to measure a course for accuracy after a thought to be record? There could of been a error on a barrel set. If you wait tell after a race, you would never know if the pattern was correct after that record run. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | sodapop - 2015-09-26 11:56 PM Thanks NTO! Just such a pretty run too! She really sat so balanced on her especially going across the pen to the 2nd, going into it, and around it. She had great body position and sat in the middle with her feet in such great position too. What a hand!
I loved seeing the different angle of her run. The first run makes it look like Mona had a little bauble on the 3rd, like she had a moment of getting stuck and on this one it doesn't look like that.
Her running to the first gave me goosebumps. Brittany is a hand and her hard work and dedication is sure paying off. It will be interesting to see what she gets done in the future. I love the riders that ride quiet and smooth. Their horses have a better chance of staying sound physically and mentally over any of the animated riders. |
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| crapshooter - 2015-09-27 1:01 AM
sodapop - 2015-09-26 10:01 PM crapshooter - 2015-09-26 11:37 PM Oh yeah I forgot that one. I don't understand how they can go so much faster down there. That's just ugly. Brittany's run was beautiful.Â
 I wonder what the fastest outdoor run is.  If I remember correctly, they run a standard pattern at every event no matter whether it is a barrel race or a rodeo.  My understanding was they practice on a standard pattern and always compete on a standard pattern. I think they have a limited number of arenas too. I guess there aren't as many variables with the format they use. Horses aren't having to adjust to different pattern sizes and arenas from run to run. I don't know. Just rambling. I could be making this all up too. lolÂ
 From the info in Sharp's post I did make some of it up. LOL Now I want to know about the 150# weight minimum rule. Sounds like my kind of people! Haha |
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Location: Oregon | Well I believed ya, sodapop! lol
Thanks Shannon for the info, I think I've asked you before because it always amazes me how fast they are! I always admire the runs and the horses on your FB page even though I do think some are "ugly" (not yours of course! :) )! Can't argue with the clock.
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Location: SP, Brazil | Yes, they add weight to your saddle pad. Here are there special saddle pads that you can put weight in. Some people, if they are close on the weight will water down the saddle pad just before the run so that the water adds weight. I dont need to add weight but wish I did! lol! |
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Location: NE WY | skye - 2015-09-27 10:17 AM I said Whoa - 2015-09-26 7:25 PM I am the show secretary (along with my mom Carol Crowder) We measured after the Slot Race tonight with the WPRA Circuit Director in the arena with us, at she confirms it is a standard pattern. Brittany Pozzi and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang ran a 16.479 tonight in the Mile Hi Barrel Horse Associations "Mile Hi Showdown Slot Race" Earlier today she ran a 16.7 on the same horse to win the open. Wouldn't it be appropiate to measure a course for accuracy after a thought to be record? There could of been a error on a barrel set. If you wait tell after a race, you would never know if the pattern was correct after that record run.
I guess I'm not really sure what you are getting at.... The facility has lazor beam markers that we use and then our head ground crew guy measures for the eye and sets stakes before the show starts. So we check the pattern before the race starts and then we chose to measure again immediately after that race since we knew it was a new record and since the wpra circuit director was present and could confirm the standard pattern instead of just going off of what I already knew to be a standard, we wanted to do a triple check. |
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