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Barrelrnr
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2015-12-10 10:59 AM
Subject: Pedigree question- top or bottom



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 How much (if any) difference does it make to have a well known name- in this case Streak of Fling- appear on your foals papers on the bottom as opposed to the topside?

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skye
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Posted 2015-12-10 11:10 AM
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The mare is said to put a lot of her genetics to a foal and disposition.  I would lean to the mare or bottom of a pedigree.   
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Whiteboy
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Posted 2015-12-10 11:18 AM
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I think it makes a huge difference.  There have been several weanlings posted here on BHW that are priced below the stud fee for the sire.  This is almost always because the mare is unproven and has a unrecognizable pedigree.  You add either a performance record or a nice pedigree and then you have a better chance of recouping some of your costs as a breeder.  As for your specific question, ASOF would be an awesome name on the bottom side of a pedigree but you will want something equally impressive on the top as well.   
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Barrelrnr
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2015-12-10 11:26 AM
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mare is own daughter of SOF; stud is GS or Sunfrost/OTMR. As far as I know, neither has been shown, only bred.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-12-10 11:28 AM
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 It would/could depend on if the horse in question is known as a broodmare sire or a sire of sires. As for ASOF I think it is too early to tell. He doesn't have any proven producing stallions or dams out there yet that I know of.
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-12-10 12:36 PM
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Barrelrnr - 2015-12-10 11:26 AM

mare is own daughter of SOF; stud is GS or Sunfrost/OTMR. As far as I know, neither has been shown, only bred.

If the colt is priced accordingly, it could be a nice performer. It would depend on conformation and disposition to me at that point. I don't know that I would buy it as a reproductive horse UNTIL it proves itself, but I am in the position where I couldn't afford an own son/daughter of blah blah blah. I cant shuck $10K for a weanling lol.
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-12-10 3:54 PM
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Dam can really affect value. That being said, if the sire himself is not well known, even a great dam may not be able to give a ton of resale value to the foal. People look first at sire (own son/own daughter) and THEN see what the dam is out of. It's sort of a diagonal slide of the eyes in about 90 percent of cases. Value is determined by that eye slide. That being said, you still have all the bloodlines to perform there, so that foal may have more value after its broke and showing potential on the pattern than say as a weanling because it still has really solid barrel lines even if the sire is not as recognizable.
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Barrelrnr
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2015-12-11 10:04 AM
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Im actually thinking of buying the foal. with shipping- it would cost about $4,000-4300K. just trying to figure out if its a decent price or if I should pass.  I do not futurity.
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-12-11 10:11 AM
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I wouldn't say you are getting a steal but I think the price is decent.

ETA, since that is shipping included, I think the price is pretty good. I forgot about shipping. I guess it depends on what shipping is lol

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Whiteboy
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Posted 2015-12-11 10:31 AM
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Barrelrnr - 2015-12-11 10:04 AM Im actually thinking of buying the foal. with shipping- it would cost about $4,000-4300K. just trying to figure out if its a decent price or if I should pass.  I do not futurity.

I think the price sounds reasonable.   
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Runaway
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2015-12-11 10:48 AM
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I agree that the dam side is extremely important.  I've also always heard from race horse breeders that if you only have run on one side, make sure it's the bottom side.  This supports someone else's comment about not breeding a great stud to an unproven mare.

 
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