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| They have zero expense at the NFR except for what they choose . By that I mean if the choose to pay a chiro or farrier or vet. I know Gilley's gave the bull riders $100 each night to blow at Gilley's. They have the VIP lounge at the Gold Buckle Zone that has all the booze and food contestants want for free. They don't have hotel expense either.Everyone is given $10,000. Literally their only expense in Vegas is the cost to get there. The money they make in Vegas is all gravy. I'm not saying they don't spend a lot to make the NFR. But the NFR becomes a huge meal ticket and opens a lot of doors once you make it there. | |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | stayceem - 2015-12-25 12:43 PM
I don't think I can imagine the costs... even following Fallon on snapchat... having a chirp/massage/whatever other people there for 10 days... I cant imagine that cost alone unless that is free due to the attention/publicity they get. That's is just ONE of many costs I cant wrap my head around.
Or not staying on grounds or renting condos instead of taking advantage of free stalls and rooms. Why wouldn't they want to save, I don't get it. | |
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Location: MD | barrelracer1983 - 2015-12-25 3:34 PM
stayceem - 2015-12-25 12:43 PM
I don't think I can imagine the costs... even following Fallon on snapchat... having a chirp/massage/whatever other people there for 10 days... I cant imagine that cost alone unless that is free due to the attention/publicity they get. That's is just ONE of many costs I cant wrap my head around.
Or not staying on grounds or renting condos instead of taking advantage of free stalls and rooms. Why wouldn't they want to save, I don't get it.
Taking advantage of free stuff doesn't always equal savings. Many keep horses off site so that they have a more restful atmosphere. They can get turn out, be more relaxed and as a result, be able to perform better. I also know some girls who give their comp'ed rooms to the people there to help them throughout the week. | |
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| what's that old saying i have always heard? oh yeah, "you gotta have money to MAKE money". or somebody's money anyway.
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Location: sunny california | CrossCreek - 2015-12-24 8:58 PM kwanatha - 2015-12-24 10:04 AM WrapSnap - 2015-12-23 10:13 PM That's pretty much the way it is in anything having to do with horses though. There is a reason that sponsors are so important. There is also the side where you have to look at spending more than you make as an investment. When we think of so many of these girls who we have seen turn their rodeo career into lucrative businesses, that money spent going down the road is really start up capital and marketing. Had Brittany not won everything that she had, would anyone be riding her saddles, buying her bit, or supplement lines? Would she be able to charge what she does for horses? Fallon has certainly done it better than anyone. She has turned her success in the arena into more businesses than probably anyone in the history of the sport and does most of her marketing while in the truck, going to the next rodeo. Sure, it costs a pile to get down the road, but at that level, it sure can reap some very fine rewards! That is an excellent point. It is kind of like college. when you go see a Doctor or Lawyer you are not just paying for that hour that you see them: you are paying for untold hours of training and expenses it took to get their education to the level that someone would expect in a particular field before asking for help from them. All the hours in the library studying and having no life is supposed to have a reward in the end, otherwise who would do it?
I never said they would make the same money as a doctor or lawyer. you missed the point competely. The point was that after they make it to the nfr, it opens doors: it is easier to hang up your trainers hat and get clients. They would still have to do a good job training to keep them though. that it was the education was for. i have seen many gals get customers for training strictly becasue of success on one horse. people go to winners when they have no other way to evaluate the skill level of a trainer. | |
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Location: East of the Pecos | To put it in perspective, look at the WPRA list of all money earners in 2015.
There were 779 girls who won any money at all (some ties).
67 won over $20K (8.7%)
55 won $10K-20K (7.1%)
83 won $5K to 10K (10.7%)
192 won $1,500-$5K (24.7%)
382 won less than $1,500 (49.1%)
Eye opening. So nearly 1/2 the girls at the rodeo are going to make less than $1,500 that whole year. Plus, 67 girls who won less than $1,500 went to 20 rodeos or more. I know some regrouped because they saw it wasn't working, some horses got hurt etc., but therre are some who go just to be seen. It's not just the girls at the top who are faced with expenses of horses, trucks, trailers, feed, maintenance & vet bills and much more. What I'd like to know is how do you go to more than 20 rodeos a year and make less than $1,500 and pay nearly the same ownership cost per horse as those who make much more than that. Max out the credit cards.
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Bug Is Alive - 2015-12-26 10:57 AM To put it in perspective, look at the WPRA list of all money earners in 2015.
There were 779 girls who won any money at all (some ties).
67 won over $20K (8.7%)
55 won $10K-20K (7.1%)
83 won $5K to 10K (10.7%)
192 won $1,500-$5K (24.7%)
382 won less than $1,500 (49.1%)
Eye opening. So nearly 1/2 the girls at the rodeo are going to make less than $1,500 that whole year. Plus, 67 girls who won less than $1,500 went to 20 rodeos or more. I know some regrouped because they saw it wasn't working, some horses got hurt etc., but therre are some who go just to be seen. It's not just the girls at the top who are faced with expenses of horses, trucks, trailers, feed, maintenance & vet bills and much more. What I'd like to know is how do you go to more than 20 rodeos a year and make less than $1,500 and pay nearly the same ownership cost per horse as those who make much more than that. Max out the credit cards.
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| CrossCreek - 2015-12-24 10:58 PM
kwanatha - 2015-12-24 10:04 AM WrapSnap - 2015-12-23 10:13 PM That's pretty much the way it is in anything having to do with horses though. There is a reason that sponsors are so important. There is also the side where you have to look at spending more than you make as an investment. When we think of so many of these girls who we have seen turn their rodeo career into lucrative businesses, that money spent going down the road is really start up capital and marketing. Had Brittany not won everything that she had, would anyone be riding her saddles, buying her bit, or supplement lines? Would she be able to charge what she does for horses? Fallon has certainly done it better than anyone. She has turned her success in the arena into more businesses than probably anyone in the history of the sport and does most of her marketing while in the truck, going to the next rodeo. Sure, it costs a pile to get down the road, but at that level, it sure can reap some very fine rewards! That is an excellent point. It is kind of like college. when you go see a Doctor or Lawyer you are not just paying for that hour that you see them: you are paying for untold hours of training and expenses it took to get their education to the level that someone would expect in a particular field before asking for help from them. All the hours in the library studying and having no life is supposed to have a reward in the end, otherwise who would do it?
I worked for a pain management doctor (anesthesiologist) who was still paying on his student loans twelve years after he finished his residency. My son has over $350,000 in student loans that are just from medical school-he paid for his four years of college with scholarships, working part time and my help.
Edited by BMW 2015-12-26 11:26 PM
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