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Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?

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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2016-01-07 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?



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30 pounds of grass hay is not much-mine graze 24/7 on dried up pastures and also get approximately 50# of 2nd cutting alfalfa a day.....2-3 pounds of whole oats with a cup of flax.  I have 5 horses that get approximately 200-250# of hay pitched per day in a lot-some eat more some eat less but regardless they are just barely finishing that amount up in a 24 hour period and they look great. 
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GraciousLegacy
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2016-01-07 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?



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I have an OTTB that has alway been a hard keeper. I have struggled for years trying to keep him looking healthy. I fed insane amounts of grain, tried all the different supplements, added beet pulp, alfalfa pellets you name it I tried it. This summer I thought I was going to lose him. He kept colicing and I kept taking him to the vet and they would do the basic check, oil him, give banamine and send us home. Finally went to a different vet and got blood pulled, ultra sound etc....
Came home with a new game plan. Started with treating for ulcers for 8 weeks and slowly weened off the ulcer meds.
Changed his feed to about 12 # a day of Chaffhaye (I had never even heard of this stuff before) and 1# Renew Gold and continued with his daily Forco. Those amounts are split into two feedings. He still has access to coastal 24/7. I think it has made a world of difference for him. I am going to attempt to attach pictures of before and after. 
First picture was around August September the 2nd and 3rd pictures are from Christmas.
I should also add that he is 23 years old.
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abrooks
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-01-07 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?


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I've posted this on other threads regarding thin horses.. 24/7 good fertilized pastures (orchard grass, timothy, little clover), free choice alfalfa (meaning he NEVER runs out completely), mineral blocks, and the ONLY difference was taking him off 13# of grain and Platinum supplement (mainly oats with Purina amplify added) and switched to 2# of Renew Gold per day plus Exceed 6way..

(I think the oats quality was just trash for us this year, low TW, just not good and everything looked dull, I hate not feeding oats b/c they work for so long but the steam crimped from Triple Crown are $19/bag..)



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abrooks
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-01-07 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?


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LMS - 2016-01-07 12:20 PM

30 pounds of grass hay is not much-mine graze 24/7 on dried up pastures and also get approximately 50# of 2nd cutting alfalfa a day.....2-3 pounds of whole oats with a cup ofΒ flax.Β  I have 5 horses that get approximately 200-250# of hay pitched per day in a lot-some eat more some eat less but regardless they are just barely finishing that amount up in a 24 hour period and they look great.Β 

This is great advice!! More high quality forage will make a huge difference 99% of the time..
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-01-08 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?



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Maybe I am missing something, but am I the only one that when they get a new horse, that maybe, just maybe they might have asked - even if the horse came from the track, what the previous owners were feeding?  And, then slowly changed the horse to a new diet which I prefer to feed? 


Horses do stress going from one place to another.  To cut them off cold turkey is only asking for problems and could be avoided by asking the previous owners.  And no, it it isn't a stupid question to ask them.  

Just my thought for the day.......................... 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2016-01-08 7:48 AM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?


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3canstorun - 2016-01-08 7:29 AM Maybe I am missing something, but am I the only one that when they get a new horse, that maybe, just maybe they might have asked - even if the horse came from the track, what the previous owners were feeding?  And, then slowly changed the horse to a new diet which I prefer to feed? 





Horses do stress going from one place to another.  To cut them off cold turkey is only asking for problems and could be avoided by asking the previous owners.  And no, it it isn't a stupid question to ask them.  



Just my thought for the day.......................... 

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their digestive systems take time to adjust. I thought she had done this, but if not, I would start back here. 
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-01-08 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?


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Thank you to everyone, I got a big bale of prairie hay yesterday and gave her quite a bit last night with the bermuda she still had left over and as of this morning she had eaten 95% of the prairie and still had bermuda left over. Its pretty hay and very good quality but maybe she just isn't a fan.. She is eating her 2 cups of beet pulp and 4# of blue bonnet ok, not happy about the amount of beet pulp but is eating it. I added smartgut ultra to her feed that I have left over from my mare that I am breeding in the spring who only gets it during hauling season. I'm going to look into THE. Again, thank you to everyone. i feel much better now that I see that she cleaned up more of her hay. I will probably add in some alfalfa to her hay tonight.
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2016-01-08 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?


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Β  I picked up an ottb in September & tried low starch route because of ulcers he tested positive for by the vet. It didn't work. I had appendix track horse for years that I had to keep off beet pulp & molasses,and I fed straight grains and some alfalfa added. So I tried that route on this guy, which goes against everything we're told. He's blossomed & doing very well. Head down shot is when he first came. He has his own Facebook page - Dynamic Host - where I've posted more pics. He's 17.1 and he eats two small buckets of grain per day, along with a protein supplement, rice bran, a handful of Chaffhaye, Remission. He's calmed down too and isn't as hot..



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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2016-01-08 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Thin 6yo OTT QH mare. What else can I do to help her pack it on?


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I feed my OTTB, who came to me needing weight on him: 5 lbs whole oats/2 scoop vit-min supplement and 2 scoops of cool calories in addition to coastal hay. This is what he gets each day. I started out feeding him everything I could think of and he still looked underweight and rough. Now I feed less and vet says he looks awesome.
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