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 Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | Any have any books or websites they recommend for barn plans? Not looking for anything big just a little 36x24 four stall design. Thanks
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| To start with increase the size to 40x24 and have a 16 ft alley way instead of 12 ft ...
you will never regret it.
and regardless where you are located do 10 ft walls ...
the cost to increase to this 40x16x10 size is so minimal you will be amazed ..
Both of these things allows you to drive a trailer thru your barn and enough room to walk around your trailer or truck ... 12 ft is a tight squeeze with duallys and big mirrors etc etc ...
16 ft allows you to place hay in front of each 4ft solid stall wall without crowding and train youngsters
to lead, load, and even longe' a little bit.
With 4 stalls 12x12 your choice is to make one a feed/tack room and 3 horse stalls ... during the winter months for hay storage you can use one end of the alleyway to stack hay across using the 8ft side walls of 2 horse stalls and leaving their 4 ft gates clear to enter and exit ...
If you are planning runs .... install gutters so roof run off will drain outside the runs ... again you will be amazed how this keeps them dry vs flooded and knee deep in mud ..
I like barn alleyways to run east and west ... this does not allow winter wind to blow down the alleyway .. and I have even left the south and east sides with no walls to allow southern breezes into barns here in tx/ok area... use peak roof vents to allow the heat build up from sun on metal roof to escape at the highest point in your barn ... Good ventilation summer and winter is a must ... a tightly enclosed barn is where you find all of your sick horses ... lol
Most important ... look at the path water drains and build you a pad at least 1 ft higher than surrounding area ... a flooded barn is not a happy adventure ... lol ... If possible do this a couple of
months prior to starting on your barn to allow it to settle ... and winter is not a good time to be building a barn ... I think everyone does a better job when not freezing to death while working ...
Electrical ... use the metal flexible conduit wire ... place your lights over the stall doors of each stall (which will also light up the alleyway) and a couple in the alleyway where you can groom a horse with good light add a plug in with these alleyway lights (for a movement sensor light, these things are invaluable to walk in and have it light up and for security purposes) ... put individual on/off switches for left, right and center lighting so you do not have to turn them all on at one time if not needed. A 2 plug in on the face of each stall for fans, clippers or whatever ...
Wash rack .. put on south side or warmest side of barn to block any north winds and that is where you put your only water faucet ... use a hose to fill water buckets inside the barn ... and know what a no freeze faucet is .... this is what you want to use ...
While thinking and deciding location for the barn .... drive you some tposts with string outlining the barn, stalls etc and drive your truck and trailer down the alleyway or how much room you need to have a comfortable turn around in front of barn and nearest fences or house ... this is another major where people stack things too close to each other with no freedom of movement or an easy place to park your trailer(s) or other items.
Keep in mind of how you can expand the size of the barn or add shed row extensions without a problem in the future ....
Locating the barn is a tuff decision ... deciding on the things you want in a barn will be easy to install after barn is erected ....
Also .. as I have grown older I hate the 4 ft stall doors .. and wish for barns I had with 12 ft swinging pipe gates for stall fronts ... these allow a bobcat to strip your stalls or add sand etc without all the shoveling you have to do with 4 ft doors ... lol .. hired help is impossible to find!!
Just google horse barns ... and print out or design yours as you go along ... four 12x12 stall areas and deciding hay and tackroom/feed areas is up to you ... and generate your list of things you want ... take pictures of barns and arenas you visit for some good ideas etc etc ..
GOOD LUCK ...
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2016-01-09 3:15 PM
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Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | Thanks for all the tips. Right now I am leaning towards a Monitor style barn and using the raised mid section as a little hay loft. I mostly keep my horses turned out so don't usually store a lot of hay but wanted an option. |
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| HorsesNHarleys - 2016-01-09 6:48 PM
Thanks for all the tips. Right now I am leaning towards a Monitor style barn and using the raised mid section as a little hay loft. I mostly keep my horses turned out so don't usually store a lot of hay but wanted an option.
Before you say loft .... get you a ladder and load 10 bales of hay up on top of your horse trailer ... and then unload it to the ground without busting any bales ...... lol ...
You can extend you a 20ft wide x 24 ft long shed row off of your barn plans and pull your flat bed loaded with hay into it cheaper than a loft which is labor and body pain intensive the older you get . lol
Leave hay on trailer and feed off of it under the shed row ... it sure makes things easier!! .. 24 ft long same as barn would be the perfect size for a 16-18 ft trailer and no lost hay due to moisture wicking if unloaded on the ground ... just be sure you do the 10ft walls with a pitch to 9ft to get a load of hay under it ... again the minimum cost will surprise you since you already have a barn wall ... |
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 The Vaccinator
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | You have received some great tips! Especially about building up the foundation good and high.... and installing gutters. If you live in an area that freezes be sure to put in the no freeze hydrants. If you can swing it, install a hot water heater for use with your wash rack -- and you can also install a washer / dryer in your barn to keep blankets clean.... I have sliding doors and wish I had installed roll-up doors....
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | My barn has 12' sidewalls, gutters, is fully insulated, has a "porch" the length of it, 12' aisle, roll up doors at both ends, and walkouts for each stall. I LOVE IT. A wider aisle would be nice, but the 12' one isn't bad. My feed room has a single door from the outside and double door access from the aisle to make getting stuff in and out easier. The only thing I dislike about my barn is my water access is outside. This isn't a problem except in winter when I have the north door closed, and then it's a pain in the butt. I wanted inside plumbing--a faucet and drain--but my hubby got sick of dealing with it by the time he got stalls and the feed and tack rooms built, and refused to put that stuff in. I didn't have the money at that time to hire it done, and so it is what it is.
something else that's different than suggested is while it has an 11' deep porch on the horse side that follows the pitch of the roof, the other side has a wider, taller carport shed that was added a few years later. It accommodates my LQ horse trailer with hay rack, truck, and various other things we want shedded. |
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Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | Thanks for the tips. We have to keep the budget down and the space condensed, thats why I was leaning towards a hayloft.
Anyone have any good places to download plans/blueprints? |
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Good Ole Boys just Fine with Me
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Location: SE Missouri | Three 4 Luck - 2016-01-10 11:57 AM
My barn has 12' sidewalls, gutters, is fully insulated, has a "porch" the length of it, 12' aisle, roll up doors at both ends, and walkouts for each stall. I LOVE IT. A wider aisle would be nice, but the 12' one isn't bad. My feed room has a single door from the outside and double door access from the aisle to make getting stuff in and out easier. The only thing I dislike about my barn is my water access is outside. This isn't a problem except in winter when I have the north door closed, and then it's a pain in the butt. I wanted inside plumbing--a faucet and drain--but my hubby got sick of dealing with it by the time he got stalls and the feed and tack rooms built, and refused to put that stuff in. I didn't have the money at that time to hire it done, and so it is what it is.
something else that's different than suggested is while it has an 11' deep porch on the horse side that follows the pitch of the roof, the other side has a wider, taller carport shed that was added a few years later. It accommodates my LQ horse trailer with hay rack, truck, and various other things we want shedded.
Do you have a picture?? |
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Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | 
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Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | So now the hubby wants me to go with a more shedrow style that we could potentially add on to later if we stay. I guess he is thinking we might move to something bigger in the next 5 years...
Anyways anyone have any shedrow styles they want to share? Dos and donts? |
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 Works Hard For The Money
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Location: Memphis, TN | Here is what we built. I didn't want permanent stalls because I never stall unless an injury requires it. The enclosed area is 12x60 with a 10 ft overhang so 22x60 covered. Posts are set so I could make 4 12x12 stalls up if needed. The last 12x12 area is where we store hay and feed. These pics are from the building process. We have worked the ground since for water drainage and put a gate on the hay storage area.
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Duct Tape Bikini Girl
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| We have a Barnmaster shedrow we had built 12 years ago. The porch runs N/S and is on the west side of the barn. The stalls run down the east side and the runs are on the east side. I had it built this way so that the barn itself provides plentiful shade for horses in the runs during the afternoon hours. Of course, that puts your west side porch in the sun in the afternoon hours, but there are some things you can do. I planted red tips down the west side and they are now the height of the barn. This keeps the porch shaded and adds wind protection. We have a very strong south wind 90% of the time. The direction of the porch allows the wind to pass through, rather than stress the structure. |
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Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC |
How tall are your posts? |
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Works Hard For The Money
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Location: Memphis, TN | I'd have to go measure to be exact. This is what we went off of as a starting point when planning it.
You can click on the construction link for measurements on theirs.
http://www.keystonebarns.com/leanto-sheds.htm |
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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | Here are some pics from our shed row. We started out with a 36x24 run, which gave us 3 12x24 stalls. But we added 10' panels to that, so it was a total of 12'x34', but when it rained it rained in pretty bad so this year the hubby added a roof to it. With a 2' overhang so now it only rains in when the wind is whipping.
The only thing I would do different now (you learn as you go along...) is to add doors to the backside, and move the barn away from the chickencoop a bit. Now I have to go through the mud to get to their stalls....
Note that I only stall them during feeding time, and when we get one of our horrible TX downpours.... the other 20 hours of the day they are in the pasture.
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Good Ole Boys just Fine with Me
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Location: SE Missouri | Three 4 Luck - 2016-01-11 10:47 AM
Thanks for sharing. i really like the lean to. |
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