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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | A friend of mine has a nice filly. Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances her money she had saved had to pay for other things. It has been a long time, but I promised to help her since she has never had to break and train her own horse. I have a list of tasks we have the filly solid on. Please add your suggestions to the list. We would appreciate all tips!
Ties, Loads and backs out of trailer, stands for farrier
saddles, boots, stands in stocks
lunges with voice commands, turning into and changing direction, stops backs, lowers head with finger tip pressure on top of head all the way to the ground,
flexes, bits up, moves rear with pressure to side, moves off forehand with slight bump pressure just as if it was leg pressure, will side pass
I have driven with lines and saddled, she stops backs, picks up shoulders, and does roll backs off the fence, doesn't mind the driving lines all over her legs or anywhere
goes over tarp
plastic table cloths tied all over and lunged with those attached to her and saddle, dragging, over head, underneath and between legs
she has gotten on and off tons of times in the stocks, then in stall, ridden in stall, ridden in round pen, crawled on and off bare back, ridden in stall with halter and with an O ring.
set up tiny jumps and obstacles and drove her thru and over all of these.
This is all I can think of right now. We just want a safe well broke horse with a nice handle. I am running out of ideas.......
P.S. She is NOT a deadhead.
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Location: Heart of Texas | You may also want to specify broke enough for what? To sell? To start barrels on? To trail ride? Whats the goal? |
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| sounds like you are doing better with her than I am with mine! LOL  |
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Location: Kansas | have no fear.....especially when asking for forward motion lol |
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | I appreciate all of you taking the time to respond. I am praying we will soon be past this stage of training and move forward with riding. I was hoping for a few more tips to move this filly forward in a more solid fashion since I am running low on ideas to debooger, and get her riding with the least issues, to effectively get this filly further along in a safe manner for my friend and her safety. |
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| Do you have a round pen and broke horse you can flag her off of? Keep her haltered and control of her when you do this but it gives her the opportunity to get desensitized to someone over the top of her. For an example of what I mean check out the little clip on Nick Dowers front page, there is an example at the 1:44 mark.
http://www.nickdowers.com/
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | AWESOME!!!!! Thank you so much!!! That is exactly some of the problems we are having to work on. The filly has been somewhat tense also when she gets on, but more so when she dismounts. This will be todays lesson!!! Thank you thank you!!!! |
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| I have helped a trainer with colts for the last 7 years or so. She's a very accomplished in multiple disciplines and studied with many of the best trainers when she was younger. You have done a whole heck of a lot more with that filly than she does with hers lol and none of her colts have been buckers or dangerous at all! So I think you are on the right track!
I actually do more ground work than she does, I am not as brave, or experienced or quick to know what's coming or exactly how to respond lol. But you do a ton more than I do either!
I would say, and I know this is a controversial method but done right I think it's beneficial, to bit her up and tie off to each side. I always tie just so the rib cage is giving slightly but it's a pretty loose rein. That way they figure out how to find release on their own and it's less work once you are in the saddle. I don't like to tie them between the legs and I don't leave them unattended.
Also we usually pony them around with a broke horse at first with no rider but then once we have stepped on and off we pony with a rider. I usually get the be the rider and I count on her to keep control of the Colt if things go south which actually hasn't happened yet knock on wood... Usually if the horse is relaxed enough the first time ponying towards the end of the ride I will use the reins to steer, ask for stop etc as if it's a solo ride. Then it's nice to have the pony horse along side for the first solo rides. It seems to give the colts confidence and I feel better knowing there is a pick up horse next to me if things get crazy lol |
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | I like that idea and do feel she will be more confident. I have a solid old broke horse that I can use and I will be saddling him up today and using him for the next few exercises with her, including this one and one mentioned above.
Thank you for helping us!!
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Location: Alabama | I have a yearling I plan to do all of this with in the coming year. I'm praying that by next spring when it's time to start actually riding all I will have to do is step on and go ride.  |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | The first step for me is teaching them to give to pressure and following feel.I want to be able to move an exact foot by just lifting a lead rope, or get the head around by picking up instead of pulling.
I'm not opposed to tying around, but getting them soft and giving is the foundation for tying around so they don't freak out - they already know how to handle some pressure.
I also want them to move over, or move just their front end over by just stepping into them. I don't want to have to touch them to control their body or feet.
I do a lot of lateral work on the ground too. Makes the riding so much easier. |
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | UPDATE!!!!!
Super excited!!!!
We had time to complete two of the exercises today suggested by Cycoup2009, and wishes for kisses, using a broke horse with a flag in a round pen with the filly saddled and haltered. This worked really really well! The filly barely batted an eye since the gelding was sooo broke and non reactive she felt no need to be either. My friend was able to get on and off without incident and rode her for at least an hour after the exercises, . It was amazing! I really liked this exercise. She actually was real relaxed.
THANK YOU!!!!
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