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Location: Where cold is the normal | There are some folks out there that just hate seeing ppl make money off of horses period, so no matter how much time money and training you stick into one, you'll never be worthy of that living you aim to make in the horse business..
Best policy plain and simple is to be as honest as can be and heck even have them sign a sale contract with full disclosure on the sale so it don't come back to bite you when the new owner has an issue no matter what it is.
This industry is not an easy one to work in let alone make an honest profit in. Lots of hate and ppl that lack in many different areas. Its easier for them to run the mouth then to educate themselves and APPLY it. | |
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| ranchand153 - 2016-02-24 11:21 AM There are some folks out there that just hate seeing ppl make money off of horses period, so no matter how much time money and training you stick into one, you'll never be worthy of that living you aim to make in the horse business..
Best policy plain and simple is to be as honest as can be and heck even have them sign a sale contract with full disclosure on the sale so it don't come back to bite you when the new owner has an issue no matter what it is.
This industry is not an easy one to work in let alone make an honest profit in. Lots of hate and ppl that lack in many different areas. Its easier for them to run the mouth then to educate themselves and APPLY it.
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| I feel like horse trainers actually TRAIN, and better the horse, and as a result price goes up. Horse TRADERS just better the horse by bs'ing, and hope someone comes along that buys their bs, and the horse. | |
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| gunner07 - 2016-02-24 1:27 PM I feel like horse trainers actually TRAIN, and better the horse, and as a result price goes up. Horse TRADERS just better the horse by bs'ing, and hope someone comes along that buys their bs, and the horse.
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| FlyingJT - 2016-02-23 12:41 PM *almost there* - 2016-02-23 12:31 PM I know it's a couple bad seeds ruining it for everyone, but unless you are a power house name, I've seen a lot of people talking negative of a lot of smaller businesses, who in my opinion, produce nice horses. Guess I'm just trying to understand why everyone gets the reputation. Everyone earns their "own" reputation... good or bad! Negative talk is because someone got shafted on a deal.
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| My husband and I like to purchase at least one, maybe two prospects a year that we mostly only look to resell. We look for nice looking, papered, geldings 5-9yrs old that are gentle and have no vices, who simply just need a job. We do this because we can make more money than simply just riding for other people (which we also do). When it comes time to sell, we are as honest as we can be with potential buyers. I've learned that being overly honest wont scare serious buyers off and also protects you because they can't act like you didn't disclose everything after the fact. I encourage them to come try the horse multiple times. I also ask a lot of questions when the buyer comes because I want to know if they are "that" kind of person who bad mouths everyone out there (and yes those people do exist). I won't sell to them. There are plenty of buyers out there, and I don't have to get desperate to make a sale.
I don't think that selling a few horses a year automatically makes you a horse trader, and we get calls weekly from people looking for horses, so I don't feel like that is how we are branded. I think you have to beware of sellers whether they sell 10 horses a year or one every ten years. Dishonest people are everywhere, but there are still a lot of good people out there, and just because yes we are making money, doesn't mean that we didn't put A LOT of money's worth of training into that horse and you are not still getting a good deal.
I have also had to turn people down who want to consign their horses with us. Sometimes if they have soundness issues, vices, or are just priced too high in my opinion, I have to find a way to politely tell them no. I am not going to lie to get a horse sold, and I'm not going to waste both of our time on trying to sell a horse for a price I don't believe I can get. | |
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| From experience, If you are looking at a horse through a trainer, most of the time they will only tell ya the basics. Then throw ya on and let ya decide for yourself. Horse trader: Wont stop talking about the horse and the BS comes spewing out of their mouth like a used car salesman. | |
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Location: Idaho | Even though I used to buy and sell horses when I was younger, I am a bit of a sucker for that type of business. I am also extremely honest when I buy to sell, mainly because I don't want to see that horse go down the road that I picked them up from. But being an honest seller works well, because the horses that I have "saved" have all gone to forever homes, and every once in a while I will catch up with those owners.. and wa-la, they still have that horse. I have seen horses that have had 7-8 owners in the last 10 years of their life. It makes me so sad.. but for the most part I have had a pretty good success rate.
But what gives a horse trade a bad name.. are the ones who pick up horses, and say how awesome they are and how great they are.. and they know them so well, even though they only have had them 2 weeks. One lady who was a trader (my first and last experience with them), she was a friend of a friend and I trusted my friend so I bought a 2D Gelding from her.. he knew the pattern, he was fast, didn't show any issues. He did have some pretty big physical blemishes on him, she showed me videos etc.. I got him for a steal. But when he got pulled off the trailer.. I couldn't send him back. He was 200 lbs underweight, his teeth needed to be done, he needed to be readjusted.. he looked like crap. So once again, here I was stuck saving another horse. Put weight back on him, got his feet done, his teeth done, saw the chiro, got him wormed etc. After 6 months he didn't look like the same horse. Finally put him on barrels.. found out he was blown up. Gave him a year off.. did other things with him.. but he ended up NOT being a 2D horse, just a reject blown up barrel/pole horse that didn't like to run. So after 2 years.. I finally sold him as a trail horse.
I'm sorry, but after that experience I am very leery and will not deal with any traders. I lost a lot of faith in people that trade and sell for a living. Granted he was a great, well minded horse. But It would have saved me a lot of money and time, if she would have just been honest about where she got him (the auction yard) and that she didn't known his background.
Edited by DashNDustem 2016-02-25 9:41 PM
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