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Would you take a gamble on this horse?

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HarlanLivesOn
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-02-25 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Would you take a gamble on this horse?



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mollibtexan - 2016-02-24 9:18 PM

If I was being selfish I would say yes bc I will be competing against you but if I'm honest it's a huge no.

May I ask why? Just out of curiosity...

Curious, too.....
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-02-25 1:24 PM
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HarlanLivesOn - 2016-02-25 1:00 PM
FlyingJT - 2016-02-25 11:23 AM
mollibtexan - 2016-02-24 9:18 PM If I was being selfish I would say yes bc I will be competing against you but if I'm honest it's a huge no.
May I ask why? Just out of curiosity...
Curious, too.....

Same here  
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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2016-02-25 1:29 PM
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HarlanLivesOn - 2016-02-25 1:00 PM
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mollibtexan - 2016-02-24 9:18 PM If I was being selfish I would say yes bc I will be competing against you but if I'm honest it's a huge no.
May I ask why? Just out of curiosity...
Curious, too.....

Same here Β 

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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-02-25 1:56 PM
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C'MON PEOPLE ...
Do your research instead of just looking ..

Horse has been OTT since 8-21-13 (2.5 years)
New owner ready to unload him after 1 month
Story ..
trail and pony horse ...
pony horse is one of the most grueling jobs a horse can have ...
Normal to pony one horse 2.5 miles ... 10/day/3 days/week .. 75 miles
(always the match race crowd to consider during 2.5 year off time)

Cribber, pacer, lameness, ornery, lazy, kicker or a nice well used horse??
Ran at $3500-5000 claimer

8.21.2013.........Last race
6.29.2013........ 4th owners
10.11.2012 ....... 3rd owners
5.9.2012 ........... 2nd owners
12.17.2010 .......original owners
2.16.2012......... first race

Have a reason to like or dislike a horse ...
bloodlines is not one of them ..
but your riding/horsemanship is of great concern
took about 3 minutes to generate this info ..

GOOD LUCK
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Three*C*Champs
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-02-25 2:14 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-25 11:56 AM C'MON PEOPLE ... Do your research instead of just looking .. Horse has been OTT since 8-21-13 (2.5 years) New owner ready to unload him after 1 month Story .. trail and pony horse ... pony horse is one of the most grueling jobs a horse can have ... Normal to pony one horse 2.5 miles ... 10/day/3 days/week .. 75 miles (always the match race crowd to consider during 2.5 year off time) Cribber, pacer, lameness, ornery, lazy, kicker or a nice well used horse?? Ran at $3500-5000 claimer 8.21.2013.........Last race 6.29.2013........ 4th owners 10.11.2012 ....... 3rd owners 5.9.2012 ........... 2nd owners 12.17.2010 .......original owners 2.16.2012......... first race Have a reason to like or dislike a horse ... bloodlines is not one of them .. but your riding/horsemanship is of great concern took about 3 minutes to generate this info .. GOOD LUCK



Also research his racing results. Try to pull vet lists, see if he was ever on them after a race and for what. Any long breaks inbetween races? Usually a sign of injury, surgery, etc.

If you're going to do a full vet check, I say yes. I LOVE my off the track hosres, but if you're not, make sure price is right for trail horse resale


 
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ShiningSRanch
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-02-25 7:41 PM
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How do I look up the vet list????
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-02-25 9:37 PM
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veintiocho - 2016-02-25 8:50 AM
Barnmom - 2016-02-24 9:45 PM No, not even if he was free if you want a barrel horse.  If he is really cheap and you need a good pony horse then go for it. 
Just curious, why do you say that?

Too many outs, not a fan of some of the horses connections and the story of why she has only owned him a month sounds fishy, JMO of course.  He may be awesome but my gut feeling is that he won't hold up for much of anything.  I would pass unless I had time and money to spare.
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-02-25 9:39 PM
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ShiningSRanch - 2016-02-25 7:41 PM How do I look up the vet list????

I honestly don't know if they keep records of horses that were on the vets list from that far back. 
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mollibtexan
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2016-02-25 11:10 PM
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This horse is by Identity Theft....what horse has he produced in the barrel pen that has won? I can't think of one if any. He is out of a daughter of Toast To Dash.....again not much there maybe a few TTD that have done ok but we're probably mixed right with some barrel lines. SLJ is amazing on the bottom side but not with that top side and TTD. There is NO TURN in this horse at ALLLLLLL! Don't do it.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-02-26 6:34 AM
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mollibtexan - 2016-02-25 11:10 PM

This horse is by Identity Theft....what horse has he produced in the barrel pen that has won? I can't think of one if any. He is out of a daughter of Toast To Dash.....again not much there maybe a few TTD that have done ok but we're probably mixed right with some barrel lines. SLJ is amazing on the bottom side but not with that top side and TTD. There is NO TURN in this horse at ALLLLLLL! Don't do it.

Love the analytical answer you gave. That us the kind of answer I would have wanted had I asked this question.
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Ashton94
Reg. Feb 2014
Posted 2016-02-26 7:31 AM
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mollibtexan - 2016-02-25 11:10 PM

This horse is by Identity Theft....what horse has he produced in the barrel pen that has won? I can't think of one if any. He is out of a daughter of Toast To Dash.....again not much there maybe a few TTD that have done ok but we're probably mixed right with some barrel lines. SLJ is amazing on the bottom side but not with that top side and TTD. There is NO TURN in this horse at ALLLLLLL! Don't do it.

Savannah Peaches (ridden by Mary Ogle) and Shesa Strawfly Dash (ridden by BJ Harris) are pretty nice. They're both by Identity Theft. A girl I used to HS rodeo with had one too that was 1d. I can't remember her name though.... I like Identity Theft :)
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mollibtexan
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2016-02-26 9:44 AM
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mollibtexan - 2016-02-25 11:10 PM

This horse is by Identity Theft....what horse has he produced in the barrel pen that has won? I can't think of one if any. He is out of a daughter of Toast To Dash.....again not much there maybe a few TTD that have done ok but we're probably mixed right with some barrel lines. SLJ is amazing on the bottom side but not with that top side and TTD. There is NO TURN in this horse at ALLLLLLL! Don't do it.

Savannah Peaches (ridden by Mary Ogle) and Shesa Strawfly Dash (ridden by BJ Harris) are pretty nice. They're both by Identity Theft. A girl I used to HS rodeo with had one too that was 1d. I can't remember her name though.... I like Identity Theft :)

My personal preference would be something else.
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BigStarBound
Reg. Oct 2015
Posted 2016-02-26 9:46 AM
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I feel like there's a reason the owner decided not to take a gamble on him.
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star1218
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-02-26 9:56 AM
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There are some incredibly good responses on this thread! Sometimes the rose-colored glasses get in the way of being able to fish out the horse's history and TRUE potential going forward.  I would like to have a few of you in my back pocket when looking at horses, that's for sure.
OP good luck!  
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2016-02-26 10:36 AM
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Barnmom - 2016-02-25 9:37 PM

veintiocho - 2016-02-25 8:50 AM
Barnmom - 2016-02-24 9:45 PM No, not even if he was free if you want a barrel horse.Β  If heΒ is really cheap and you need a good pony horse then go for it.Β 
Just curious, why do you say that?

Too many outs, not a fan of some of the horses connections and the story of why she has only owned him a month sounds fishy, JMO of course.Β  He may be awesomeΒ but my gut feeling is that he won't hold up for much of anything.Β  I would pass unless I had time and money to spare.

Thanks for the answer
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Three*C*Champs
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-02-26 1:13 PM
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Barnmom - 2016-02-25 7:39 PM
ShiningSRanch - 2016-02-25 7:41 PM How do I look up the vet list????
I honestly don't know if they keep records of horses that were on the vets list from that far back. 

I unforunately only know how to pull the vet lists for CA.  And yes, some are on there as far back as 2006

 
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ShiningSRanch
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-03-03 10:28 PM
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Well we cancelled the meeting for last Saturday cause it was muddy. She said she would get some short videos of him moving. This was Friday and I haven't heard a peep out of her. So needless to say I passed...
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lottarate
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2016-03-04 8:12 AM
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Sounds like things went as suppose to. Still may work out. As for vet passes on the track or medications allowed. Racing boards are public information just go to committee minutes about the date you're looking for. Good Luck on your next venture
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