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FLITASTIC - 2016-04-25 11:10 AM merdth6 - 2016-04-25 8:56 AM following...Have you tried Flair strips for the nose? Â Â I did about a year ago when they were all the fad. I had no reason to, no allergies, coughing, my horse cooled out just fine. But i used them " Just because" and stopped long before these issues started. LOL But I certainly would use them again if needed.
I could go back to it sure! Maybe if the lasix really does work on him then I will formulate a plan to treat him as if he was a bleeder and add those. As of right now we are just experimenting. It might be that he is just " feeling his oats" and going through that rebellious teenager stage I never expected from him. lol |
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| Just an update, 2cc Lasix at the jackpot last night was AWESOME. My horse off the track was CALM, FOCUSED, and turned so hard it bruised my stomach from hitting the saddle horn! LOL He FIRED in all turns left and right and before that he was hesitant on the left. Hope it stays this way! Feels GREAT to have my horse back. |
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Location: IL | FLITASTIC - 2016-04-27 2:28 PM Just an update, 2cc Lasix at the jackpot last night was AWESOME. My horse off the track was CALM, FOCUSED, and turned so hard it bruised my stomach from hitting the saddle horn! LOL He FIRED in all turns left and right and before that he was hesitant on the left. Hope it stays this way! Feels GREAT to have my horse back.
So what was your protocol? Give lasix 3 hours prior...IV or IM? Pull water and hay 3 hours prior. After run give electrolytes and water??? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2016-04-27 2:28 PM Just an update, 2cc Lasix at the jackpot last night was AWESOME. My horse off the track was CALM, FOCUSED, and turned so hard it bruised my stomach from hitting the saddle horn! LOL He FIRED in all turns left and right and before that he was hesitant on the left. Hope it stays this way! Feels GREAT to have my horse back.
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| My vet said the minimum effective dose is 3cc 2-3 hours out. My gelding is a urinating machine anyway ...... I have never seen a horse pee as much as he has and he has been that way for 2 years since I had him. Since he is not s known bleeder i did 2cc 2 hours out with no feed or water. He is finished so he doesn't need to be warmed up a lot etc. seemed to work! I can't get over the calming effect it had. Lol |
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Location: richmond, MO | My daughters mare had to be put on lasix 4 years ago! The vet we used is also a track vet and advised 5cc 5 hours before run. Pull Water and hay! Now I am noticing weight problem and she doesn't seem to fire like she use to! we have backed down to 3 cc 3-4 hours out and trying supplement with empower or something! We do give IV. Without Lasix, she does bleed but never bleed until she was about 11 years old.
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Location: Texas | One hour out is not enough time. It should be a minimum of 2 hours. I typically give it 2-3 hours to give it enough time to work and settle down. |
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Location: Kansas | You need to be careful with this stuff. Too much Lasix at the racetrack took our Thoroughbred from sound to permanently unsound at the age of six. Restricted blood flow to his hooves caused just enough founder to make him a basket case. |
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| Frodo - 2016-04-28 6:29 AM
You need to be careful with this stuff. Â Too much Lasix at the racetrack took our Thoroughbred from sound to permanently unsound at the age of six. Â Restricted blood flow to his hooves caused just enough founder to make him a basket case.Â
Thanks for the heads up. My colt only had 2 outs at the track and I havent used any until couple days ago in the almost 2 years I have owned him. He only gets run 1-2x a month. Track uses 4-5cc each time and mine is half that so I will keep an eye on it. Thanks! |
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| Frodo - 2016-04-28 6:29 AM You need to be careful with this stuff. Too much Lasix at the racetrack took our Thoroughbred from sound to permanently unsound at the age of six. Restricted blood flow to his hooves caused just enough founder to make him a basket case.
I'm sorry this happened to your horse and I mean no disrespect here but, how was it confirmed that the lasix use is what caused this? Based on what I know to be the pathology of lasix, I just don't understand that. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-04-27 2:28 PM Just an update, 2cc Lasix at the jackpot last night was AWESOME. My horse off the track was CALM, FOCUSED, and turned so hard it bruised my stomach from hitting the saddle horn! LOL He FIRED in all turns left and right and before that he was hesitant on the left. Hope it stays this way! Feels GREAT to have my horse back.
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WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-04-25 9:43 AM
 Just make sure you give a good daily electolyte. Then boost with a paste or top dress electrolyte after you run and start offering your horse water again. If you don't your horse may get washed out. It does take a few days for them to totally recover from lasix because it continues to deplete calcuim and phosphorous.
Thanks so much! THats kind of what I was predicting. I asked my vet, who used to be a track vet, and all she would tell me is " We never did anything special at the track after a race, just gave them water and put them back in their stall. Well, that's a bit different situation than being at a hot barrel race all day tied to a trailer etc. I do have an electrolyte top dress they absolutely LOVE and I only use it when weather changes or if I know its going to be a long hot day at the barrel race. Perfect! I will just plan on giving electrolytes day before and after they run with their water and couple days after that even. Thanks!
May I ask what electrolyte you feed that they eat? Mine have turned their noses up on everything I've tried... |
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Location: Bandera, TX | want2chase3 - 2016-04-28 7:43 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-25 11:59 AM WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-04-25 9:43 AM Just make sure you give a good daily electolyte. Then boost with a paste or top dress electrolyte after you run and start offering your horse water again. If you don't your horse may get washed out. It does take a few days for them to totally recover from lasix because it continues to deplete calcuim and phosphorous. Thanks so much! THats kind of what I was predicting. I asked my vet, who used to be a track vet, and all she would tell me is " We never did anything special at the track after a race, just gave them water and put them back in their stall. Well, that's a bit different situation than being at a hot barrel race all day tied to a trailer etc. I do have an electrolyte top dress they absolutely LOVE and I only use it when weather changes or if I know its going to be a long hot day at the barrel race. Perfect! I will just plan on giving electrolytes day before and after they run with their water and couple days after that even. Thanks! May I ask what electrolyte you feed that they eat? Mine have turned their noses up on everything I've tried...
Try 707 Restore most like to eat it out of your hand. When your hauling it covers up nasty water and they often times drink for you. I make it into a paste and give by syringe to those that are reluctant. |
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| want2chase3 - 2016-04-28 5:43 PM
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 Just make sure you give a good daily electolyte. Then boost with a paste or top dress electrolyte after you run and start offering your horse water again. If you don't your horse may get washed out. It does take a few days for them to totally recover from lasix because it continues to deplete calcuim and phosphorous.
Thanks so much! THats kind of what I was predicting. I asked my vet, who used to be a track vet, and all she would tell me is " We never did anything special at the track after a race, just gave them water and put them back in their stall. Well, that's a bit different situation than being at a hot barrel race all day tied to a trailer etc. I do have an electrolyte top dress they absolutely LOVE and I only use it when weather changes or if I know its going to be a long hot day at the barrel race. Perfect! I will just plan on giving electrolytes day before and after they run with their water and couple days after that even. Thanks!
May I ask what electrolyte you feed that they eat? Mine have turned their noses up on everything I've tried...
I feed the adeptus nutrition version. Can't remember the specific name its out in the trailer. Lol but look up Adeptus nutrition. They make an electrolyte. My horses suck it down. |
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Location: Kansas | barrelracinbroke - 2016-04-28 11:53 AM Frodo - 2016-04-28 6:29 AM You need to be careful with this stuff. Too much Lasix at the racetrack took our Thoroughbred from sound to permanently unsound at the age of six. Restricted blood flow to his hooves caused just enough founder to make him a basket case. I'm sorry this happened to your horse and I mean no disrespect here but, how was it confirmed that the lasix use is what caused this? Based on what I know to be the pathology of lasix, I just don't understand that.
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| Frodo - 2016-04-29 6:06 AM barrelracinbroke - 2016-04-28 11:53 AM Frodo - 2016-04-28 6:29 AM You need to be careful with this stuff. Too much Lasix at the racetrack took our Thoroughbred from sound to permanently unsound at the age of six. Restricted blood flow to his hooves caused just enough founder to make him a basket case. I'm sorry this happened to your horse and I mean no disrespect here but, how was it confirmed that the lasix use is what caused this? Based on what I know to be the pathology of lasix, I just don't understand that.
Wow, again I'm sorry that happened to your horse.
Albeit, I agree that lasix doesn't come without side effects that must be carefully monitored, "restricting blood flow" isn't one I've ever heard or been told by any vets. I know it decreases blood pressure by eliminating water and salt from the body but, that's what helps deter bleeding.
Anyhow, yes, it's a drug to be used with caution and I hope people don't use it indiscriminately.
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| barrelracinbroke - 2016-04-29 12:03 PM
Frodo - 2016-04-29 6:06 AM barrelracinbroke - 2016-04-28 11:53 AM Frodo - 2016-04-28 6:29 AM You need to be careful with this stuff.  Too much Lasix at the racetrack took our Thoroughbred from sound to permanently unsound at the age of six.  Restricted blood flow to his hooves caused just enough founder to make him a basket case. I'm sorry this happened to your horse and I mean no disrespect here but, how was it confirmed that the lasix use is what caused this? Based on what I know to be the pathology of lasix, I just don't understand that.Â
Albeit, I agree that lasix doesn't come without side effects that must be carefully monitored, "restricting blood flow" isn't one I've ever heard or been told by any vets. I know it decreases blood pressure by eliminating water and salt from the body but, that's what helps deter bleeding.
Anyhow, yes, it's a drug to be used with caution and I hope people don't use it indiscriminately. Â
I did ask my vet this question about restricting blood flow and she had never heard of that and checked the vet " Literature" ( Whatever that is) and could find no evidence. I didn't post that here cause it really doesn't matter in my case. But my vet was a track vet for something like 15 years and had never heard of it. But I sure hate to see it happen to your horse though! |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-04-29 12:22 PM barrelracinbroke - 2016-04-29 12:03 PM Frodo - 2016-04-29 6:06 AM barrelracinbroke - 2016-04-28 11:53 AM Frodo - 2016-04-28 6:29 AM You need to be careful with this stuff. Too much Lasix at the racetrack took our Thoroughbred from sound to permanently unsound at the age of six. Restricted blood flow to his hooves caused just enough founder to make him a basket case. I'm sorry this happened to your horse and I mean no disrespect here but, how was it confirmed that the lasix use is what caused this? Based on what I know to be the pathology of lasix, I just don't understand that.
Albeit, I agree that lasix doesn't come without side effects that must be carefully monitored, "restricting blood flow" isn't one I've ever heard or been told by any vets. I know it decreases blood pressure by eliminating water and salt from the body but, that's what helps deter bleeding.
Anyhow, yes, it's a drug to be used with caution and I hope people don't use it indiscriminately.
I did ask my vet this question about restricting blood flow and she had never heard of that and checked the vet " Literature" ( Whatever that is ) and could find no evidence. I didn't post that here cause it really doesn't matter in my case. But my vet was a track vet for something like 15 years and had never heard of it. But I sure hate to see it happen to your horse though!
I'd hate to see it happen to anyone as well! But dang, that was a new one to me too! |
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