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Location: The Great Northwest | jbhoot - 2016-06-19 11:12 AM Vickie - 2016-06-19 10:30 AM TXBO - 2016-06-19 10:29 AM Vickie - 2016-06-18 3:41 PM foundation horse - 2016-06-17 10:28 PM magic gunsmoke - 2016-06-17 8:42 PM Teaching=thankless job. That's about all I have to say about that...love how we always end up taking the blame for everyones mistakes on all sides. The parents, the students, the government, general population. Although I do greatly appreciate the posts that say the fault does not lay with us. Thank you for the support! We try to rise above what we are given and make the world a better place! Are you disputing my historical evaluation involving Horace Mann the self admitted socialist? Teaching in and of itself is a noble profession i.e. calling. And not a lot of people are proficient in teaching others............Now with that said, I agree with TFL in the politics of teaching. The history of Horace Mann illustrates the political side of teaching. Also, Teacher's Unions have done nothing whatsoever to help educate students! However, the unions have darn sure lined their leader's pockets and kept subpar teachers employed!
I am very tired of anti-public education people trying to destroy the very foundation of our democracy = a free, quality public school system. An educated populance is the best defense of democracy.
Congratulations, you just proved the point for all the anti-public school proponents. Just what part of the Constitution or the bill of rights says it is the most important function of government?
WOW, What would you prefer an uneducated populance that is easily lead.
Most Americans seen easily lead. The polititians like it that way. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I think the point is that education should be state/local, not federal. You know that part of the constitution that says any powers not expressly defined therein are delegated to the states? Well, education is one of those state things. | |
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Posts: 1929
 
| skye - 2016-06-19 1:49 PM
jbhoot - 2016-06-19 11:12 AM Vickie - 2016-06-19 10:30 AM TXBO - 2016-06-19 10:29 AM Vickie - 2016-06-18 3:41 PM foundation horse - 2016-06-17 10:28 PM magic gunsmoke - 2016-06-17 8:42 PM Teaching=thankless job. That's about all I have to say about that...love how we always end up taking the blame for everyones mistakes on all sides. The parents, the students, the government, general population. Although I do greatly appreciate the posts that say the fault does not lay with us. Thank you for the support! We try to rise above what we are given and make the world a better place! Are you disputing my historical evaluation involving Horace Mann the self admitted socialist? Teaching in and of itself is a noble profession i.e. calling. And not a lot of people are proficient in teaching others............Now with that said, I agree with TFL in the politics of teaching. The history of Horace Mann illustrates the political side of teaching. Also, Teacher's Unions have done nothing whatsoever to help educate students! However, the unions have darn sure lined their leader's pockets and kept subpar teachers employed!
I am very tired of anti-public education people trying to destroy the very foundation of our democracy = a free, quality public school system. Â An educated populance is the best defense of democracy.
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Congratulations, you just proved the point for all the anti-public school proponents. Just what part of the Constitution or the bill of rights says it is the most important function of government?
WOW, What would you prefer an uneducated populance that is easily lead. Most Americans seen easily lead. The polititians like it that way.
Your assumption that I would approve an uneducated populace proves my point. The federal government was never given the right to be in the education business and that is what it is a business. That right was given to the states and there it should remain. And yes the politicians do like the present system it's called central control of your money your lives and what you learn. So far the federal government is doing a fine job of turning out a dumbed down populace just what they want. | |
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Common Sense and then some
Location: So. California | Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-19 10:31 AM Anniemae - 2016-06-19 11:37 AM This was the latest I could find... From Saturday.....
Of the 19 people who remain hospitalized, four patients are in critical condition and another three are in guarded condition, Morales said.
Four patients were discharged from Orlando Regional Medical Center since Friday afternoon.
Since the massacre, doctors performed 54 operations on victims.
And then you have the two motorcycle policemen that were hit/injured as they accompanied a funeral procession. 
And I didnt know about the police men prayers for them
I don't believe anyone has died since the initial night... I believe there were 9 taken to the hospital that did not make it.
A few in critical care, have life changing injuries. Due to HYPAA regulations, the exact nature of those injuries have not been released to the general public.
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| Vickie - 2016-06-19 10:30 AM TXBO - 2016-06-19 10:29 AM Vickie - 2016-06-18 3:41 PM foundation horse - 2016-06-17 10:28 PM magic gunsmoke - 2016-06-17 8:42 PM Teaching=thankless job. That's about all I have to say about that...love how we always end up taking the blame for everyones mistakes on all sides. The parents, the students, the government, general population. Although I do greatly appreciate the posts that say the fault does not lay with us. Thank you for the support! We try to rise above what we are given and make the world a better place! Are you disputing my historical evaluation involving Horace Mann the self admitted socialist? Teaching in and of itself is a noble profession i.e. calling. And not a lot of people are proficient in teaching others............Now with that said, I agree with TFL in the politics of teaching. The history of Horace Mann illustrates the political side of teaching. Also, Teacher's Unions have done nothing whatsoever to help educate students! However, the unions have darn sure lined their leader's pockets and kept subpar teachers employed!
I am very tired of anti-public education people trying to destroy the very foundation of our democracy = a free, quality public school system. An educated populance is the best defense of democracy.
Congratulations, you just proved the point for all the anti-public school proponents.
For your reading pleasure, Joseph Stalin's most famous quote on education:
'Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."
Edited by TXBO 2016-06-19 5:40 PM
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Anniemae - 2016-06-19 4:56 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-19 10:31 AM Anniemae - 2016-06-19 11:37 AM This was the latest I could find... From Saturday.....Of the 19 people who remain hospitalized, four patients are in critical condition and another three are in guarded condition, Morales said. Four patients were discharged from Orlando Regional Medical Center since Friday afternoon. Since the massacre, doctors performed 54 operations on victims. And then you have the two motorcycle policemen that were hit/injured as they accompanied a funeral procession.
And I didnt know about the police men prayers for them
A few in critical care, have life changing injuries. Due to HYPAA regulations, the exact nature of those injuries have not been released to the general public.
 , was trying to check up on this and was not getting anywhere, guess I was looking in the wrong places. 
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2016-06-19 5:42 PM
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Location: North Texas | Vickie - 2016-06-19 10:30 AM
TXBO - 2016-06-19 10:29 AM Vickie - 2016-06-18 3:41 PM foundation horse - 2016-06-17 10:28 PM magic gunsmoke - 2016-06-17 8:42 PM Teaching=thankless job. That's about all I have to say about that...love how we always end up taking the blame for everyones mistakes on all sides. The parents, the students, the government, general population. Although I do greatly appreciate the posts that say the fault does not lay with us. Thank you for the support! We try to rise above what we are given and make the world a better place! Are you disputing my historical evaluation involving Horace Mann the self admitted socialist? Teaching in and of itself is a noble profession i.e. calling. And not a lot of people are proficient in teaching others............Now with that said, I agree with TFL in the politics of teaching. The history of Horace Mann illustrates the political side of teaching. Also, Teacher's Unions have done nothing whatsoever to help educate students! However, the unions have darn sure lined their leader's pockets and kept subpar teachers employed!
I am very tired of anti-public education people trying to destroy the very foundation of our democracy = a free, quality public school system. Â An educated populance is the best defense of democracy.
Â
Congratulations, you just proved the point for all the anti-public school proponents.
In reality, Government"s Original Mandate was and is National Security!
Edited by foundation horse 2016-06-20 8:53 AM
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Location: North Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-19 2:54 PM
 I think the point is that education should be state/local, not federal.  You know that part of the constitution that says any powers not expressly defined therein are delegated to the states?  Well, education is one of those state things.Â
That would be the Ninth Amendment. | |
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Location: LaBelle, Florida | Watching the news last night and this morning 2 things:
They tried to issue the REdacted call of the terrorist who murdered the folks at Pulse. They wanted to cut out the part where he claimed his terrorist ties to isis, etc. The Public demanded the call recording in its unaltered form.....good news, it was done.
Now the second thing:
Our Governor filed for a State of Emergency for the Orlando Pulse Terrorist shootings. This would bring 5 million in funding to help pay for all the damage that has been done. It was Denied.
There was no reason listed by the news for the denial.
The only thing I can think of is that 'his highness' doesn't beleive this guy was a terrorist. (my opinion only)
Edited by kasaj2000 2016-06-21 5:08 AM
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| kasaj2000 - 2016-06-21 5:05 AM
Watching the news last night and this morning 2 things:
They tried to issue the REdacted call of the terrorist who murdered the folks at Pulse. Â They wanted to cut out the part where he claimed his terrorist ties to isis, etc. Â The Public demanded the call recording in its unaltered form.....good news, it was done.
Now the second thing:
Our Governor filed for a State of Emergency for the Orlando Pulse Terrorist shootings. Â This would bring 5 million in funding to help pay for all the damage that has been done. Â It was Denied.
There was no reason listed by the news for the denial.
The only thing I can think of is that 'his highness' doesn't beleive this guy was a terrorist. (my opinion only)
I heard that too about trying to cut out the part where he claimed his ties - I don't quite get that when everybody has already heard about the ties, what good would it do after the fact? - But then, nothing from our POS Prez would surprise me. | |
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Location: Kansas | Griz - 2016-06-21 5:19 AM kasaj2000 - 2016-06-21 5:05 AM Watching the news last night and this morning 2 things:
They tried to issue the REdacted call of the terrorist who murdered the folks at Pulse. They wanted to cut out the part where he claimed his terrorist ties to isis, etc. The Public demanded the call recording in its unaltered form.....good news, it was done.
Now the second thing:
Our Governor filed for a State of Emergency for the Orlando Pulse Terrorist shootings. This would bring 5 million in funding to help pay for all the damage that has been done. It was Denied.
There was no reason listed by the news for the denial.
The only thing I can think of is that 'his highness' doesn't beleive this guy was a terrorist. (my opinion only) I heard that too about trying to cut out the part where he claimed his ties - I don't quite get that when everybody has already heard about the ties, what good would it do after the fact? - But then, nothing from our POS Prez would surprise me.
A man named Phillip Haney just wrote a book. He worked for the Dept. of Homeland Security for years and established a database of terrorists in the U.S and also their ties to the network of mosques here in America. When Obama came into office, all of his information was scrubbed from the files. I've seen him interviewed on tv twice. I think the book is called "See Something, Do Nothing." The whole thing is just mindblowing. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | kasaj2000 - 2016-06-21 5:05 AM Watching the news last night and this morning 2 things:
They tried to issue the REdacted call of the terrorist who murdered the folks at Pulse. They wanted to cut out the part where he claimed his terrorist ties to isis, etc. The Public demanded the call recording in its unaltered form.....good news, it was done.
Now the second thing:
Our Governor filed for a State of Emergency for the Orlando Pulse Terrorist shootings. This would bring 5 million in funding to help pay for all the damage that has been done. It was Denied.
There was no reason listed by the news for the denial.
The only thing I can think of is that 'his highness' doesn't beleive this guy was a terrorist. (my opinion only)
Half of our town was wiped out by a tornado in 2007, the main business area and residences both, and we were denied federal disaster aid. Why? Because most of what was damaged was insured, so the losses didn't meet the monetary threshold. Federal declarations are tricky. We decided we didn't need no stinkin fed money and helped our own. 
They did eventually let people in need have some of the FEMA trailers that were rotting unused at the Hope, AR airport, but it was a fight to get them. They built all those trailers after Katrina and then they sat and many were ruined by the time FEMA auctioned them off. Fine example of bloated bureaucracy. | |
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Semper Fi
Location: North Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-21 7:03 AM
kasaj2000 - 2016-06-21 5:05 AM Watching the news last night and this morning 2 things:
They tried to issue the REdacted call of the terrorist who murdered the folks at Pulse. Â They wanted to cut out the part where he claimed his terrorist ties to isis, etc. Â The Public demanded the call recording in its unaltered form.....good news, it was done.
Now the second thing:
Our Governor filed for a State of Emergency for the Orlando Pulse Terrorist shootings. Â This would bring 5 million in funding to help pay for all the damage that has been done. Â It was Denied.
There was no reason listed by the news for the denial.
The only thing I can think of is that 'his highness' doesn't beleive this guy was a terrorist. (my opinion only)
 Half of our town was wiped out by a tornado in 2007, the main business area and residences both, and we were denied federal disaster aid. Why? Because most of what was damaged was insured, so the losses didn't meet the monetary threshold.  Federal declarations are tricky.  We decided we didn't need no stinkin fed money and helped our own. They did eventually let people in need have some of the FEMA trailers that were rotting unused at the Hope, AR airport, but it was a fight to get them.  They built all those trailers after Katrina and then they sat and many were ruined by the time FEMA auctioned them off.  Fine example of bloated bureaucracy.Â
TFL, I understand and agree with Your Town's assessment of the tornado damage. However, Orlando was not a Natural Event, but a Political Event and I believe that a Declaration of Emergency would be warranted in this particular scenario. | |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | kasaj2000 - 2016-06-21 6:05 AM Watching the news last night and this morning 2 things:
They tried to issue the REdacted call of the terrorist who murdered the folks at Pulse. They wanted to cut out the part where he claimed his terrorist ties to isis, etc. The Public demanded the call recording in its unaltered form.....good news, it was done.
Now the second thing:
Our Governor filed for a State of Emergency for the Orlando Pulse Terrorist shootings. This would bring 5 million in funding to help pay for all the damage that has been done. It was Denied.
There was no reason listed by the news for the denial.
The only thing I can think of is that 'his highness' doesn't beleive this guy was a terrorist. (my opinion only)
Our state received money from the Dept. of Justice for the killing of the 9 church members in Charleston. If you are talking about mental and emotional damage maybe this area will receive money from the DOJ.
http://www.newsweek.com/us-fast-track-29-million-help-charleston-shooting-victims-families-345246
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| jbhoot - 2016-06-19 4:03 PM skye - 2016-06-19 1:49 PM jbhoot - 2016-06-19 11:12 AM Vickie - 2016-06-19 10:30 AM TXBO - 2016-06-19 10:29 AM Vickie - 2016-06-18 3:41 PM foundation horse - 2016-06-17 10:28 PM magic gunsmoke - 2016-06-17 8:42 PM Teaching=thankless job. That's about all I have to say about that...love how we always end up taking the blame for everyones mistakes on all sides. The parents, the students, the government, general population. Although I do greatly appreciate the posts that say the fault does not lay with us. Thank you for the support! We try to rise above what we are given and make the world a better place! Are you disputing my historical evaluation involving Horace Mann the self admitted socialist? Teaching in and of itself is a noble profession i.e. calling. And not a lot of people are proficient in teaching others............Now with that said, I agree with TFL in the politics of teaching. The history of Horace Mann illustrates the political side of teaching. Also, Teacher's Unions have done nothing whatsoever to help educate students! However, the unions have darn sure lined their leader's pockets and kept subpar teachers employed!
I am very tired of anti-public education people trying to destroy the very foundation of our democracy = a free, quality public school system. An educated populance is the best defense of democracy.
Congratulations, you just proved the point for all the anti-public school proponents. Just what part of the Constitution or the bill of rights says it is the most important function of government? WOW, What would you prefer an uneducated populance that is easily lead. Most Americans seen easily lead. The polititians like it that way. Your assumption that I would approve an uneducated populace proves my point. The federal government was never given the right to be in the education business and that is what it is a business. That right was given to the states and there it should remain. And yes the politicians do like the present system it's called central control of your money your lives and what you learn. So far the federal government is doing a fine job of turning out a dumbed down populace just what they want.
Teachers unions do nothing for children, but in our part of the world, they saved the pension on a teacher convicted of sexual assault of a student.
I am glad my children never set foot in a public school.
Where in the constitution does it allocate government control of the classroom and funding of such?
Edited by kmcsunshine 2016-06-21 3:25 PM
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