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| I've got a four year old how I've noticed coughing some this summer. He's not been rode much this summer because he is downhill and mostly turned out to grow. With that said though- he has been hauled some this summer so probably some potential exposure to sickness- although I don't let him touch other horses.
I've noticed him coughing once in a while in the pasture and recently when worked he'll cough quite a bit when I start to long trot/lope him. Maybe even worse going one direction vs the other. This is not something he was doing earlier this year.
I have heard allergy horses develop these over time and you don't notice it until you work harder....and am beginning to wonder if that is what he has. He could still potentially be sick I suppose although my other horses are not showing any signs.
The horse is turned out on pasture and doesn't stand in a barn. However there was a year-two when he was in a lot and last fall was when he went back on pasture. This is his first summer since I've owned him of being on pasture. Not showing any other symptoms....he was on pasture though when I bought him and I didn't notice any coughing then.
From my experience vets seem to want to blanket everything as heaves which I don't believe he has.
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| Same symptoms mine had, scope showed it was not allergies but nasopharyngeal cicatrix-which is a allergy from grazing, but different in that it causes the pharynx to swell and create scar tissue that restricts the breathing. Luckily my horses responded to a vaccine that halts the progress. The vaccine does not work on all horses. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-08-25 9:08 AM
 Same symptoms mine had, scope showed it was not allergies but nasopharyngeal cicatrix-which is a allergy from grazing, but different in that it causes the pharynx to swell and create scar tissue that restricts the breathing.  Luckily my horses responded to a vaccine that halts the progress.  The vaccine does not work on all horses. Â
So with the one vaccine you don't have to worry about it anymore? Or do you restrict/prevent grazing? I've never heard of anything like that. |
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Location: NE Texas | If you can, go back and research my old posts regarding respiratory issues. I fought this for years with my horse, intermittent cough/dust allergies, until it finally blew up into full blow respiratory distress when we added the stress of hauling. I spent over $5000 in 3 months with several different vets and had exceeded all treatment options for this horse. We did multiple scopes, exercise scope, multiple rounds of anti-biotics, Depo shots, nebulizer treatments, daily ventipulmin and dexamethasone at levels up to 8cc of Vent per day and he still couldn't take a deep enough breath to cough. This started with very basic allergies like you're describing as a young horse (he's only 6 now). After lots of money spent and being out of options, I took a leap of faith and tried the Cur-OST products. Despite my skepticism, they gave me a brand new horse in only 30 days. He went from a horse that my vets were advising me to put down due to the fact that when hot weather arrived he'd suffucate to a horse I was back to riding in less than a month. I literally tried everything else and hd nothing to lose except for a little more money. When Dr. Schell asked me to give him two weeks, I accepted the challenge. Sure glad I did! The pictures below are from March 2015 and April 2015, literally 31 days apart. Sure glad I took that leap of faith and have my horse back! Here is an article I stumbled across in my search for something to help when all else had failed. This is what got me on this path: https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/articles/391-is-it-allergies-or-copd
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| ImaSparkyAce - 2016-08-25 9:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-08-25 9:08 AM Same symptoms mine had, scope showed it was not allergies but nasopharyngeal cicatrix-which is a allergy from grazing, but different in that it causes the pharynx to swell and create scar tissue that restricts the breathing. Luckily my horses responded to a vaccine that halts the progress. The vaccine does not work on all horses. So with the one vaccine you don't have to worry about it anymore? Or do you restrict/prevent grazing? I've never heard of anything like that.
With mine they could go back to grazing. I scope them twice a year and do a booster vac each fall. Horses that don't respond to the vaccine have to stay stalled :(. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-08-25 10:52 AM
ImaSparkyAce - 2016-08-25 9:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-08-25 9:08 AM Â Same symptoms mine had, scope showed it was not allergies but nasopharyngeal cicatrix-which is a allergy from grazing, but different in that it causes the pharynx to swell and create scar tissue that restricts the breathing. Â Luckily my horses responded to a vaccine that halts the progress. Â The vaccine does not work on all horses. Â So with the one vaccine you don't have to worry about it anymore? Or do you restrict/prevent grazing? I've never heard of anything like that.
vaccine name? Feel free to pm me please.
I use the equi-resp and nebulize dex every 3 days. No more hives or coughing and its cheap an effective. |
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| astreakinchic - 2016-08-25 10:21 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-08-25 10:52 AM ImaSparkyAce - 2016-08-25 9:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-08-25 9:08 AM Same symptoms mine had, scope showed it was not allergies but nasopharyngeal cicatrix-which is a allergy from grazing, but different in that it causes the pharynx to swell and create scar tissue that restricts the breathing. Luckily my horses responded to a vaccine that halts the progress. The vaccine does not work on all horses. So with the one vaccine you don't have to worry about it anymore? Or do you restrict/prevent grazing? I've never heard of anything like that. vaccine name? Feel free to pm me please. I use the equi-resp and nebulize dex every 3 days. No more hives or coughing and its cheap an effective.
Pythium vaccine, a 3 series shot. My vet charges $225. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | My story is out here somewhere too but I use Cur-OST Total and Immune on my mare. Prior to Cur-OST I was trying to find out what was wrong with her, had her scoped and lead us down the allergy route, did the allergy shots for a year and just wasn't happy with the results so started some other supplements, Oxy-GEN, Platinum, different aides etc. Then she got pnemonia which was scary and made me do some alternate searching, finally found Cur-OST and have been SO please. It won't reverse the damage of course but dang she is eating everything she was allergic according to her allergy test to and is firing harder than ever before.
My entire barn is on it now and they feel and look fantastic.
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Until a vet checks him there's really no definite answer. If it is seasonal allergies I have had a lot of success with Immune Boost which will be renamed soon to Body Boost by Animal Element. It has lysine so it helps boost the immune system. If it's more serious than seasonal allergies Immune Key by Animal Element is excellent for helping to heal and fight any infection. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | I have to third cur-ost. My mare has terrible allergies and is reactive to steroids on top of it. We tried it all to no avail. She couldnt so much as long trot without coughing. Started her on cur-ost in may and rarely hear her cough now. She feels and looks fantastic. Worth every penny. |
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| jschipper - 2016-08-25 2:25 PM
I have to third cur-ost. My mare has terrible allergies and is reactive to steroids on top of it. We tried it all to no avail. She couldnt so much as long trot without coughing. Started her on cur-ost in may and rarely hear her cough now. She feels and looks fantastic. Worth every penny.
So is she living in the environment which was causing the problem and no longer have trouble? What do you have her on? How old when symptoms started?
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Location: Texas | Curost Total Equine and Immune & Repair did my horse wonders. He was diagnosed with the Nasopharyngeal Cicatrix Syndrom as well. Check out the other post on that subject. |
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| I went back to Curost total support for my allergy guy. He was maintaining on another product but my neighbors brought in 20 head of horses that just like to run and make dust. He was miserable. Curost fixed him right up. |
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| Turns out my guy must have gotten a slight cold. Pulled him off pasture the cough completely cleared- put him back out and thankfully it hasn't returned. |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Have any of your horses ever had hives all over their body? My friends mustang has tested allergic to numerous things and the only thing that helps is dex which is not good long term. She's done allergy shots specifically made her with no luck. She did have respiratory issues but they took her off most of her hay and she's lost weight so she seems better, but any help would be appreciated. I'm not trying to steal the thread |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | ImaSparkyAce - 2016-08-25 12:31 PM
jschipper - 2016-08-25 2:25 PM
I have to third cur-ost. My mare has terrible allergies and is reactive to steroids on top of it. We tried it all to no avail. She couldnt so much as long trot without coughing. Started her on cur-ost in may and rarely hear her cough now. She feels and looks fantastic. Worth every penny.
So is she living in the environment which was causing the problem and no longer have trouble? What do you have her on? How old when symptoms started?
sorry just saw this.
I bought this mare as a broodmare 5 years ago. I brought her back after she foaled. Has alot of different health issues that we sorted out and the respiratory was the last. We tried inhalers, changing feed schedule/routine, you name it. She reacted to the steroids in inhalers and almost died.
She is also an ulcer horse and if I pulled omeprazole for more than 2 days she would go off her feed. Dr. Schell put her on Cur-OST plus, Cur-OST stomach and Cur-OST adapt and calm. Within a month she wasn't just cleared up respiratory wise, she was also off omeprazole.
I do not haul hay in the trailer (extra stall), feed in the trailer, haul with any kind of bedding (I haul in soft rides), or feed hay loose EVER. She always eats hay out of a net and I keep her on grass as much as possible to eliminate the dust. BUT, I've been doing that same routine for years and it never did much. I even tried a hay steamer. We really aren't sure where the allergies came from or what the triggers were. She does have a compromised immune system, so I would imagine that is the biggest issue. Not so much environmental.
The Cur-OST has been a life saver for this horse.
I have recently added Simply Equine to the team as well and Heather is supplementing with a respiratory blend to FIX some issue in one lung. But she has recommended she continue on Cur-OST as well. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | If you have any blood work (cbc and chemistry panel) I would send it in to THE and have them make up a custom formula for you. He could target the breathing issues from environment, boost the immune and I'm sure he would look into the grazing allergy and see what can be added from there. Krystal is great to work with.  |
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