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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-09-11 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: Why did I hit this barrel?



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I am seeing something a little different. When you posted the other videos it re-enforced what I saw. I think you have a neat little horse that does not have a lot of confidence yet. First run this year you run the horse as hard as you can to the first barrel in a difficult pen. If the horse had a little more confidence it would have set itself up a little better. I think you had a couple of good runs so you decided to start running harder. My suggestion is to slow the horse down to a speed that it can handle. When the horse runs a perfect run every time then speed up.
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QHriderKE
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2016-09-13 4:32 PM
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All last year I just let her cruise in at whatever speed she chose, this year, in dry work, she felt a lot more ratey so I felt like pushing her to the barrel would be a good idea to get her by.

But, you could be right, she's no automatic and needs a lot more seasoning.
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-09-13 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Why did I hit this barrel?



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You need to be consistent with what you do and where you put the horse. To be honest, I don't see you helping your horse much on first. You are going in there and instead of sitting down, saying whoa, giving a two hand check, going to the horn and turning...you are running in there, sitting, saying whoa and pulling one handed as you say whoa. I don't see you giving any time for the "whoa" to register in your horses mind before you are pulling. The horse is trying but simply can't do a proper turn due to the whoa/pull at the same time. That pull is the problem. Say whoa and give the horse a chance to set before you pull. He'll thank you for it. You have a horse that wants to be very honest. A lot of horses would be blowing off the backside to evade that pressure in the pull.

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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-09-13 7:39 PM
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Entering the barrel you snatched your inside rein pretty hard which killed forward momentum, got her off balance by pulling her nose and front in on the barrel and her rear swung out...
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IowaCanChaser
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2016-09-13 7:52 PM
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txbredbr - 2016-09-06 12:23 PM

What it looks like to me is because you were coming in so straight your turn started more UP the arena instead of toward the fence/backside of the barrel.....your horse had already finished turning and wasn't even at the backside of the barrel, so had stop to keep from running flat into the barrel. I could not see a slip, but a stop right at the time of a push-off to avoid a barrel between the front legs. 

Your horse seems very quick and can turn on a dime.

 

This is what I saw as well, my suggestion would be to push one stride past the barrel. He is a quick turner so make sure he's past the barrel a stride before you let him turn. I really like his turning style though, I think you'll do great! Also like others have said you need more of an arch
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-09-13 7:59 PM
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geronabean - 2016-09-13 7:39 PM Entering the barrel you snatched your inside rein pretty hard which killed forward momentum, got her off balance by pulling her nose and front in on the barrel and her rear swung out...
Thats what I saw too, snatched the inside rein, I watched the video a few times more, if you watch your hands you can see what happen..  

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2016-09-13 8:01 PM
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2016-09-15 9:26 AM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-09-11 12:31 AM
QHriderKE - 2016-09-05 9:15 PM I'm having trouble figuring out why I smashed this barrel. It almost looks like she slipped a little and stood up to catch herself and shouldered the barrel, but I'm not sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBPI9Gw5NHQ The whole run is a bit of a mess, lost track of my reins coming off of second LOL, it was the first time I ran my horse this year, so I was expecting no less.
Your video is a perfect example of not setting up your horse to approach barrel 1 .... watch and stop your video as you first pass the barrel ... the side of your horse is in full view as he is running by the barrel ... If you had not ran to the barrel but picked your first 1/4 turn so horse is facing the barrel he would be set up to make a normal 360* turn ... there is 1 1/4 turns at the first barrel. 2nd point .. if you are doing rollbacks as a training device ... stop it .. this will get you more knocked barrels than anything else .. 3rd point .. something I have never understood at timed events ... horse takes a hard hit and knocks a barrel and rider continues to ride hard as if nothing happened ...... you are out of the competition and if your horse injured themselves riders are making it worse and then wonder why horse is limping and gimping around the next week and never tells the vet they hit a barrel ... lol I admire riders that slow down to a lope or even a trot to complete a pattern or just make a circle and go out of the arena ....... it shows the rider is concerned and is protecting their horse .... I have seen rodeo crowds applaud the riders that do this.. Count your lucky stars that you have a well broke and sure footed horse ... the way he was all over that barrel could have been a disaster in the making .. Just settle down and concentrate on finesse' and you will be surprised at how fast you cut the clock off ... GOOD LUCK CLICK ON VIDEO OP'S VIDEO ABOVE ...>>>>>>>>>

BARRELHORSEUSA I think this is the nicest advice I think I've ever read from you. Honest, to the point, and helpful.
Great input! 
 
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QHriderKE
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2016-09-15 2:16 PM
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This was only the second time she's ever knocked a barrel, and the first time was an innocent spook at flags above the announcers stand, so I've yet to have a problem with knocking barrels with her before.

I'm pretty new to this barrel racing game, I trained this horse myself, from scratch, so when problems arise I have no idea what to do Thanks for the help everyone!

Once I'm done with college expenses, I plan to going to as many clinics as I can, cause my horse has loads of potential to kick butt, I just have no idea how to get her there.
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-09-15 5:27 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-13 8:59 PM
geronabean - 2016-09-13 7:39 PM Entering the barrel you snatched your inside rein pretty hard which killed forward momentum, got her off balance by pulling her nose and front in on the barrel and her rear swung out...
Thats what I saw too, snatched the inside rein, I watched the video a few times more, if you watch your hands you can see what happen..  

Here it is with pictures.
1. The horse collects up SLIGHTLY preparing to turn. Could she a bit more? that's personal preference, and experience and the horses ability none of which I know.

2. Here is where you snatch and get her nose/front headed into the barrel



3. Here is where her hind end slips, you lift your inside rein up and over her neck to try to avoid the barrel which really just pulls her more into the trun and off balance



All this causes you to get a little off center and your hands continue to be a little busy. But I really like your horse. She looks like when your timing is on she will be a nice one!!


 

Edited by geronabean 2016-09-15 5:28 PM
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-09-15 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: Why did I hit this barrel?



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geronabean - 2016-09-15 5:27 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-13 8:59 PM
geronabean - 2016-09-13 7:39 PM Entering the barrel you snatched your inside rein pretty hard which killed forward momentum, got her off balance by pulling her nose and front in on the barrel and her rear swung out...
Thats what I saw too, snatched the inside rein, I watched the video a few times more, if you watch your hands you can see what happen..  
Here it is with pictures.
1. The horse collects up SLIGHTLY preparing to turn. Could she a bit more? that's personal preference, and experience and the horses ability none of which I know.

2. Here is where you snatch and get her nose/front headed into the barrel



3. Here is where her hind end slips, you lift your inside rein up and over her neck to try to avoid the barrel which really just pulls her more into the trun and off balance



All this causes you to get a little off center and your hands continue to be a little busy. But I really like your horse. She looks like when your timing is on she will be a nice one!!


 
How cool that you can post these pictures, the more I watched the video the more I watched her hands, you can see the snatch, and the mare was doing what she asked of her, I think if she would have just picked her up coming into the turn she would have been ok, That is a nice mare, but you need to be more quite with your hands. Seems like I saw that in another video too coming into the second barrel.. 

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2016-09-15 5:56 PM
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