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DashNDustem
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2016-10-05 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic... what would you do?



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You're adoptive mother sounds a lot like my biological mother when I was younger. For the longest time she suffered from alcoholism, depression and severe ptsd. We knew about the depression and alcoholism, but not the PTSD. For about 8 years of my young adult life, she would call my brother and I, yell at me and him, tell us to forget about her, say she disowned us, cursing us out and say a bunch of mean and messed up things. But then she would call us back, saying how sorry she was and that she loved us. It has been well over 11 years and my brother still refuses to talk to her. I, on the other hand, started talking to her about 6 years ago.

This is where your decision comes in, because there is a reason WHY she is acting like that. Maybe she had a rough child hood, maybe she was abused, maybe something happened during her young life that she is still holding onto.. because she doesn't know how to deal with it and move on.

This was the problem with my mother. She was crying for help, and because of how we were raised we wouldn't see it. We just thought, she just had problems and she had to figure it out on her own. Sounds cruel, and some ways it was. I work in mental health, and I have always felt there was something missing as far as knowledge when it came to her behavior. Especially when she always talked about her father, she would always start crying.. shaking her head.. saying "he was a good man, he was a good man.." I never understood it.

A couple years ago, I was at my mother's one night and when I was walking by her she grabbed me by the arm and asked me to sit down because she had to tell me something. Well, she told me a story about her father. It wasn't a happy story, it was a pretty bad story and she had been holding onto this.. for 45+ years. She didn't tell anyone about it. She had been keeping it inside, and it had been eating her alive. THAT is why she drank, because she wanted to forget. She had a bad childhood, she never was much able to be a child because she was busy taking care of her siblings by the age of 13. She wanted to drink and have fun, because she never got to when she was younger. She yelled at us, because she wanted attention and didn't know how to properly ask for it, and she was in pain and didn't know how to get rid of it.. so she took it out on us. I found a lot of understanding because of that, because I was willing to dig deep and try and find out the reasons for her behaviors. It's probably because I work in Mental health and I kind of am willing to do that, and deal with it. Some people can't do that, and there is nothing wrong with that.

As far as your adoptive mother, she may be keeping those drug addict kids and thieves in her home.. because well, maybe that is the only attention she is getting. Maybe there is something that happened when she was younger that has haunted her, and she doesn't know how to deal. My thought would be.. you can either try and help her, or say, hey I don't want to deal with it and let it go.

This is my two cents.

Edited by DashNDustem 2016-10-05 7:46 PM
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acheela
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Posted 2016-10-12 3:22 PM
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 Well, I've not been taking any calls from my "mother" since she acted  a fool and hung up on me. I have read everything you guys have said, and I have prayed about our relationship. I just feel like I want to go about my life and be left alone by her and her little brood. I have no anymosity, hatred, or anything like that, I just feel nothing toward her. 

Yesterday, I had my granddaughter in the truck with me, had to run back in the house for some forgotten something, and came back out to "I answered your phone for you"

It was HER!, I felt like I had been kicked in the throat for a minute, and got on the phone. She just starts jabbering away like nothing had ever been wrong (in her world this is normal), and the whole time I'm thinking, how dare you bother my peaceful life. I want so bad to tell her off, and hang up on her, but that would be stooping to her level. 

I really just want to be done, she's toxic, hateful, and selfish. I have been mentally manipulated by her for so long that I still feel like I can't just tell her how she made me feel. I already know she will either blow it off and say that I'm being silly, or blow up herself and start reminding me of everything shes done for me through the years, and turn me back into the bad guy again. 

She is ALWAYS in bed, always has the same "symptoms" of injury, or illness, and the same problems day after day after day. I just feel nothing anymore, just done. How can I bring myself to tell her I don't want any part of her, her son, her grand-spawn-of-satan, take me out of the will, take me out of her contact numbers, take me out of her life. I feel like she could have prevented all this from happening years ago if she had wanted to, but then she wouldnt have people feeling sorry for her. Her friendshipd have to be on her terms, and she has alienated more than one person who truly tried to be friends with her over stupid stuff. 

So sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a rant, I just really appreciate you guys' opinions and advice. Thanks for listening!
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luluwhit
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-10-12 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic... what would you do?...small update



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acheela - 2016-10-12 4:22 PM

ย Well, I've not been taking any calls from my "mother" since she acted ย a fool and hung up on me. I have read everything you guys have said, and I have prayed about our relationship. I just feel like I want to go about my life and be left alone by her and her little brood. I have no anymosity, hatred, or anything like that, I just feel nothing toward her.ย 

Yesterday, I had my granddaughter in the truck with me, had to run back in the house for some forgotten something, and came back out to "I answered your phone for you"

It was HER!, I felt like I had been kicked in the throat for a minute, and got on the phone. She just starts jabbering away like nothing had ever been wrong (in her world this is normal), and the whole time I'm thinking, how dare you bother my peaceful life. I want so bad to tell her off, and hang up on her, but that would be stooping to her level.ย 

I really just want to be done, she's toxic, hateful, and selfish. I have been mentally manipulated by her for so long that I still feel like I can't just tell her how she made me feel. I already know she will either blow it off and say that I'm being silly, or blow up herself and start reminding me of everything shes done for me through the years, and turn me back into the bad guy again.ย 

She is ALWAYS in bed, always has the same "symptoms" of injury, or illness, and the same problems day after day after day. I just feel nothing anymore, just done. How can I bring myself to tell her I don't want any part of her, her son, her grand-spawn-of-satan, take me out of the will, take me out of her contact numbers, take me out of her life. I feel like she could have prevented all this from happening years ago if she had wanted to, but then she wouldnt have people feeling sorry for her. Her friendshipd have to be on her terms, and she has alienated more than one person who truly tried to be friends with her over stupid stuff.ย 

So sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a rant, I just really appreciate you guys' opinions and advice. Thanks for listening!

to keep that senerio from happening again.... select the blocked option on your contact screen. That is shutting the door instead of leaving it open.
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acheela
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Posted 2016-10-12 3:41 PM
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luluwhit - 2016-10-12 3:35 PM
acheela - 2016-10-12 4:22 PM  Well, I've not been taking any calls from my "mother" since she acted  a fool and hung up on me. I have read everything you guys have said, and I have prayed about our relationship. I just feel like I want to go about my life and be left alone by her and her little brood. I have no anymosity, hatred, or anything like that, I just feel nothing toward her. 



Yesterday, I had my granddaughter in the truck with me, had to run back in the house for some forgotten something, and came back out to "I answered your phone for you"



It was HER!, I felt like I had been kicked in the throat for a minute, and got on the phone. She just starts jabbering away like nothing had ever been wrong (in her world this is normal), and the whole time I'm thinking, how dare you bother my peaceful life. I want so bad to tell her off, and hang up on her, but that would be stooping to her level. 



I really just want to be done, she's toxic, hateful, and selfish. I have been mentally manipulated by her for so long that I still feel like I can't just tell her how she made me feel. I already know she will either blow it off and say that I'm being silly, or blow up herself and start reminding me of everything shes done for me through the years, and turn me back into the bad guy again. 



She is ALWAYS in bed, always has the same "symptoms" of injury, or illness, and the same problems day after day after day. I just feel nothing anymore, just done. How can I bring myself to tell her I don't want any part of her, her son, her grand-spawn-of-satan, take me out of the will, take me out of her contact numbers, take me out of her life. I feel like she could have prevented all this from happening years ago if she had wanted to, but then she wouldnt have people feeling sorry for her. Her friendshipd have to be on her terms, and she has alienated more than one person who truly tried to be friends with her over stupid stuff. 



So sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a rant, I just really appreciate you guys' opinions and advice. Thanks for listening!
to keep that senerio from happening again.... select the blocked option on your contact screen. That is shutting the door instead of leaving it open.

LOL< Now why didn't I think of that? 
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Tbred
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2016-10-12 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic... what would you do?



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While I was growing up, my mother suffered from manic depression.  She verbally and physically abused me and I walked on egg shells, flinched when she would raise her arm at the grocery store to get something off the shelf.

I moved across state after graduation and didn't talk to her for a long time.  Then one day she called, and I didn't even know who she was, because her voice was so different, soft and kind.  She had finally gotten help and was on medication.  We had a much better relationship from that point forward even though it was awkward when she'd hug me or say she loved me.

My mother passed away going on 4 years ago from cancer.  I miss her every day.  So many times I wish I could call her because I know she'd know the answer to my question.

Keep your distance and don't allow her to hurt you, but don't give up on her.  She may get the help she needs someday.  I hated my mom for so many years and all that means nothing now that she's gone. 
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pepsi97
Reg. Feb 2015
Posted 2016-10-12 7:50 PM
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acheela - 2016-10-04 8:00 PM

Thank you guys for the replies. Since I posted this she has called three times, and finally left a message. Said she just wanted to see if I was feeling better. I was sick two weeks ago. Acts like nothing is wrong. As usual. I'm just done. Tired of being treated like a second rate pos.

Well you are definetly not a POS. I'm sorry you have had to go through this. I hope you do what's best for you ( whatever you decide) and know that there are people who love and care for you. It always amazes me how rough other peoples lives are or have been. Prayers and hugs for you.
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pepsi97
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Posted 2016-10-12 7:56 PM
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One more thing, have you sat down with her and talked about this? About how she has made you feel, hurt you. My dad and I have always had a rocky relationship. Especially since his wife doesn't want his kids around. He has said hurtful things to me and just doesn't know how to be a parent. I finally sat down with him, with years in my eyes and our relationship has gotten better. Though there are things I wish he'd do different, I still love him.
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acheela
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Posted 2016-10-13 8:32 AM
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pepsi97 - 2016-10-12 7:56 PM One more thing, have you sat down with her and talked about this? About how she has made you feel, hurt you. My dad and I have always had a rocky relationship. Especially since his wife doesn't want his kids around. He has said hurtful things to me and just doesn't know how to be a parent. I finally sat down with him, with years in my eyes and our relationship has gotten better. Though there are things I wish he'd do different, I still love him.

I haven't done that this time, but I have in the past. She started out saying I was a liar, that she never said/did the things I said that hurt me. Then she started in on everything I have done "wrong" my entire life, from 40 years ago, and starts trying to put the blame on me, and saying I owe her an apology. And an apology isn't enough, it has to be worded exactly the way she orchestrates it. It's amazing to me how she tolerates the things her natural son, and his son do, but I have never measured up. I have honestly put in the effort to try to get along with her, but I just can't stomach it any more. The people in my past, friends, relatives, have all said to just be done, that everyone knows shes crazy. 

I'm not young any more. I'm 51 years old, and I really don't care if I see or talk to her ever again. She doesn't have any abuse, or excuse in the past to be this way. She has been spoiled her whole life. My dad was a banker, and a good christian man. He provided very well for her, and she was never satisfied. She always wanted  bigger house, better car, more money, and was just a pain to live with. She enjoys making me miserable, and literally purposfully mentally tortures me. 

I had a fabulous relationship with my dad, and I know theres a special place in heaven for him having put up with her all those years. 
Thank you guys again for all the support. The last phone call where I talked to her, and it was just business as usual... she has no concience and can't care one iota and be that way.
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