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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-11-08 9:01 AM
Subject: Running by the first..again



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My gelding and I are running about 2 strides by the first barrel. He used to inhale the first. I thought it was one particular set up but he has done it at 3 different pens now. I dont know if it is me (as I am getting with a new saddle), or him. If it is him I am trying to decide if he just needs to be set down at the first a couple of times to instill more rate, or if I need to take him to get checked out by a vet. He doesnt display signs of lameness, and he works barrel 2 and 3 like a champ.

Opinions? Thanks in advance :) :)   
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-11-08 9:06 AM
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scwebster - 2016-11-08 7:01 AM

My gelding and I are running about 2 strides by the first barrel. He used to inhale the first. I thought it was one particular set up but he has done it at 3 different pens now. I dont know if it is me (as I am getting with a new saddle), or him. If it is him I am trying to decide if he just needs to be set down at the first a couple of times to instill more rate, or if I need to take him to get checked out by a vet. He doesnt display signs of lameness, and he works barrel 2 and 3 like a champ.

Opinions? Thanks in advance :) :)   

Is he a finished seasoned horse??? If so, then I would be looking at lameness issues. I had a solid open horse that would do that when his his hocks needed to be injected. He to never showed lameness but he was a tough &*(&)(*&) as far as pain goes. No matter how many times we flexed him or how long we held that leg up he trotted off sound. Only thing he would do is show me bu running by. As soon as he was done no more issues. If your horse is young, still being seasoned etc, then could be a stage.
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jewishprincess
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2016-11-08 9:14 AM
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Could very well be your new saddle if you're still adjusting. You may feel different to him too. How does he run at home?
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-11-08 9:25 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2016-11-08 9:06 AM
scwebster - 2016-11-08 7:01 AM My gelding and I are running about 2 strides by the first barrel. He used to inhale the first. I thought it was one particular set up but he has done it at 3 different pens now. I dont know if it is me (as I am getting with a new saddle), or him. If it is him I am trying to decide if he just needs to be set down at the first a couple of times to instill more rate, or if I need to take him to get checked out by a vet. He doesnt display signs of lameness, and he works barrel 2 and 3 like a champ.



Opinions? Thanks in advance :) :)   
Is he a finished seasoned horse??? If so, then I would be looking at lameness issues. I had a solid open horse that would do that when his his hocks needed to be injected. He to never showed lameness but he was a tough &*(&)(*&) as far as pain goes. No matter how many times we flexed him or how long we held that leg up he trotted off sound. Only thing he would do is show me bu running by. As soon as he was done no more issues. If your horse is young, still being seasoned etc, then could be a stage.

Thank you for the input! Hes an 8 year old and has been being hauled for 2 years. Been on the barrels 3 years. I have it on video, I may try to post it here. 
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rpreast
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2016-11-08 3:02 PM
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scwebster - 2016-11-08 1:55 PM Trying to upload a video...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_bM96Y76M&feature=youtu.be





 

You're video is private. You'll have to change the settings on it via YouTube  
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-11-08 3:08 PM
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rpreast - 2016-11-08 3:02 PM
scwebster - 2016-11-08 1:55 PM Trying to upload a video...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_bM96Y76M&feature=youtu.be





 
You're video is private. You'll have to change the settings on it via YouTube  

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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-11-08 3:10 PM
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Running by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JONxHDaM9IM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_bM96Y76M

Not running by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1PgmVWdAyk 
 https://youtu.be/JXRxlwTXTJY
 

Edited by scwebster 2016-11-08 3:14 PM
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-11-08 3:28 PM
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I think you may need to check your horse a little harder or sooner befor you get to your first barrel, just hard for me to tell what you are doing with your hands too, but I would maybe run my hand a little lower on the inside rein going into the barrel. 
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2016-11-08 4:16 PM
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I wish your video person was standing on the side with the 1st barrel instead, so that barrel is in closer view. 

But, I personally can't really say that I see any signs of soreness. His back end looks good and I do not see him fighting you in any way. It just seems more like you didn't quite get him set up right for the turn. His "turn" looks great; it's just 2 or 3 strides too late!

I think it's just you finding your new "feel" in the new saddle.

I know with my horse Red, if I don't have my body language just right, he'll get by the first barrel a couple strides. I really have to make sure I "TURN" with my body. So if he gets by the first a little bit, it's totally my fault. I have to be careful to set him up right to nail it. The second and third turn aren't as picky and he does them great, but that's just how he is.

 
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Sockittoemred
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-11-08 4:24 PM
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I try to always vet first, and then correct. Three times in a row indicates a problem. Be it soreness or something you're doing. May as well go ahead and vet to be sure it isn't pain as opposed to tuning on him and making him more sore and possibly resentful. JMO
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-11-08 5:02 PM
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Sockittoemred - 2016-11-08 4:24 PM

I try to always vet first, and then correct. Three times in a row indicates a problem. Be it soreness or something you're doing. May as well go ahead and vet to be sure it isn't pain as opposed to tuning on him and making him more sore and possibly resentful. JMO

This is what I do. IMO, your horse is sore somewhere in his hind end (I'd suspect hocks, but you might want to check stifles and SI, as well). Watch him as he goes into the barrels...he's stabbing those hind feet down together instead of getting his inside leg up under him and pushing with the other....he's obviously (to me, anyhow) trying not to use that rear end. I'd make an appointment at the vet if this was my horse. Tuning on one, or setting him down when he's already sore will just create more problems. JMO
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-11-08 6:06 PM
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I would check stifles and hocks.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2016-11-08 8:49 PM
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I would bet stifles and hocks

 
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-11-09 12:24 PM
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So does he appear lame or sore in the videos where he runs by? 
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2016-11-09 12:40 PM
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He really gets his ass in the ground on the video where he didn't run by. I would vet him. You have to do right by the horse. I'd guess rear end soreness but I'd also check out the front joints also.
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roanrider
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2016-11-09 1:32 PM
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My gelding would run 2-3 strides past the first barrel. He ended up having thin soles, bursas injected and we changed his shoeing. After that he turned the first much better. He was never lame, never "off", it took 3 trips to vet to find anything.
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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2016-11-09 1:44 PM
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I agree with the others with a soreness issue. He was really setting down and turning in the ones he didn't run past. Looks to me like he isn't wanting to sit down and work in the later videos.  
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-11-09 2:04 PM
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Thanks guys, I def want to address anything that may be hurting him.  
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