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buckskin blonde
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2017-01-04 4:03 PM
Subject: Horses that rate to soon


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Does anyone know any drills that will help with a horse that rates to soon/hard?
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2017-01-04 4:31 PM
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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2017-01-04 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Horses that rate to soon



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The break off drill. Hands down the best one I've found.
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buckskin blonde
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2017-01-04 5:29 PM
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Care to explain? Is there a article or video of it somewhere?
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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2017-01-04 6:25 PM
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This is how I applied it with my very ratey mare, who I had done the speed up a step step out a step drills with her and the rate at your rate point and go one gait faster around the barrel drill to with little to no affect in an actual run until we started what I'll call my version of the break off drill because I know a lot of people apply it differently.
My mare got especially ratey at the second barrel so I'll give you that example of the drill, she is a right barrel first pattern horse....Run to the first, rate and turn as you normally would, head to the second, rate where you want them to actually rate, then counter arc away and moving forward from the 2nd barrel ( arced to the left but circling and moving to the right) back towards the fence somewhere between the 1st and 3rd barrel, kiss, hustle, spank whatever your cue is to RUN HARD and run out towards the perimeter of your pattern breezing a big circle out on the perimeter around the 3rd, down the "fence" along the 2nd barrel side all the way around headed back down the fence along the 1st barrel, make a loop behind the first barrel and head back to the entry side of the 2nd barrel. If they stayed free'd up, then rate and turn, and head to the 3rd barrel, if she got ratey we'd repeat the break off drill. It is kind of like the drill we used in the cutting pen to "break off" when horse was starting to cheat a turn back and getting short on one end.
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snoopyjoe
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2017-01-05 9:09 AM
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Danyelle Campbell talked to me about my horse rating too soon and suggested that I should try to trot the pattern but at a fast trot. You want to go past the barrel and when the hip is past then you turn. Keep in mind to always make a good circle around each barrel. She stresses lots of slow work. Keep doing this for a while.
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2017-01-05 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: Horses that rate to soon



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Be VERY aware of where you sit down for a barrel. Sitting down becomes a cue, and they may just be listening to your unconscious cue.

I tend to like my horses to NOT require me to "set" them for a barrel. I just put them in the right place, sit down and let them turn the barrel. The problem is if you sit down too soon, you cause such a horse to sit and rate and either hit or pull down barrels. I spent most of this summer hitting barrels because of this. I left 3 rodeos in a row where I hit or pulled down a barrel where I would have won the rodeo. VERY frustrating because I knew it was all me and my mare was doing HER job. Habits like that are very hard to change. The worst thing was I was able to ride her well and consistently the year before...I don't know where it came from.

Edited by rodeoveteran 2017-01-05 4:20 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2017-01-05 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: Horses that rate to soon




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rodeoveteran - 2017-01-05 4:15 PM

Be VERY aware of where you sit down for a barrel. Sitting down becomes a cue, and they may just be listening to your unconscious cue.

I tend to like my horses to NOT require me to "set" them for a barrel. I just put them in the right place, sit down and let them turn the barrel. The problem is if you sit down too soon, you cause such a horse to sit and rate and either hit or pull down barrels. I spent most of this summer hitting barrels because of this. I left 3 rodeos in a row where I hit or pulled down a barrel where I would have won the rodeo. VERY frustrating because I knew it was all me and my mare was doing HER job. Habits like that are very hard to change. The worst thing was I was able to ride her well and consistently the year before...I don't know where it came from.

RIDER ANTICIPATION ...

AND LOOKING AT THE BARREL INSTEAD OF TURNING SPOT ..
(rider and the horse will follow the riders eyes)




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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2017-01-05 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: Horses that rate to soon


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  Ride straighter longer. The squares drill helped me with my setty rollback gelding.
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