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bkkelly08
Reg. May 2012
Posted 2017-03-07 6:41 PM
Subject: Bleeders


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What does everyone do to maintain a horse that bleeds? Mine has only bled 3 times since I've had her. I bought her in April and the person I bought her from said she never bled with her. Anyway, she bled once after a big weekend barre race and she was in a dusty indoor so we blamed it on the dust. The 2nd time was at another big barrel race that was indoor and the stalls were really dusty. I called my vet and she said to give her zertec and see if a vet at the show would give her an antibiotic. After we came home we bought a Silver Horse Care nebulizer and have her on Lasix. I haven't had a problem since this summer until just recently. She has been coughing and will put her head down real low when I work her. Has anyone else's horse done this? This past weekend she didn't full out bleed but she coughed and blew out a little blood on the side of the trailer. My vet said to put her on antibiotic and nebulize her with albuterol which I've been doing
Should I be concerned or be doing anything different?
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2017-03-07 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeders



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Your horse is likely bleeding badly and is trying to tell you. Just because you don't see blood coming out doesn't mean they're not bleeding internally. Coughing, head down, blood speckles on the trailer, those are all serious red flags.

Texas A&M will tell you 60 days off, antibiotics, with a slow return to peak fitness. Environmental changes and correct
Lasix dosages are huge.

Try to find out why she's bleeding. Do a BAL, scope gutteral pouches, have flappers in throat analyzed, check everything!

Read about bleeders until your eyes bleed, and make sure you're using a really good performance vet.

This is a good article to start with: https://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/horse-health/2211-guarantee...

Good luck!
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2017-03-07 7:33 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeders


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Flamin10
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2017-03-07 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeders



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classicpotatochip - 2017-03-07 6:58 PM

Your horse is likely bleeding badly and is trying to tell you. Just because you don't see blood coming out doesn't mean they're not bleeding internally. Coughing, head down, blood speckles on the trailer, those are all serious red flags.

Texas A&M will tell you 60 days off, antibiotics, with a slow return to peak fitness. Environmental changes and correct
Lasix dosages are huge.

Try to find out why she's bleeding. Do a BAL, scope gutteral pouches, have flappers in throat analyzed, check everything!

Read about bleeders until your eyes bleed, and make sure you're using a really good performance vet.

This is a good article to start with: https://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/horse-health/2211-guarantee...

Good luck!

I second this completely!!
My mare was trying to tell me for 3.5 months at least last spring and two weeks when I brought her back too quick last fall she was still bleeding.
Along with correct lasix dosage before a run you can also add bleeder stop, equipulmin, wind aid, cur-ost..any of those supplements help bleeders. I personally have mine on bleeder stop and wind aid and it's help TREMENDOUSLY. I still run her on lasix as I'm not race enough to try without lasix after this past fall.
Main things, scope your horse and test it to see if there is any inflammatory response or infection. Find what doseage of lasix works for your horse and at what time frame (every horse is different), make sure they are in tip top shape, no high hanging hay or feed at shows or at home and try to minimize dust (wet the hay slightly, etc.).
Not sure where you are located but find a good performance vet if you don't have one that knows a lot about bleeders.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-03-08 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: Bleeders



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Flamin10 - 2017-03-07 11:14 PM
classicpotatochip - 2017-03-07 6:58 PM Your horse is likely bleeding badly and is trying to tell you. Just because you don't see blood coming out doesn't mean they're not bleeding internally. Coughing, head down, blood speckles on the trailer, those are all serious red flags. Texas A&M will tell you 60 days off, antibiotics, with a slow return to peak fitness. Environmental changes and correct Lasix dosages are huge. Try to find out why she's bleeding. Do a BAL, scope gutteral pouches, have flappers in throat analyzed, check everything! Read about bleeders until your eyes bleed, and make sure you're using a really good performance vet. This is a good article to start with: https://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/horse-health/2211-guarantee... Good luck!
I second this completely!! My mare was trying to tell me for 3.5 months at least last spring and two weeks when I brought her back too quick last fall she was still bleeding. Along with correct lasix dosage before a run you can also add bleeder stop, equipulmin, wind aid, cur-ost..any of those supplements help bleeders. I personally have mine on bleeder stop and wind aid and it's help TREMENDOUSLY. I still run her on lasix as I'm not race enough to try without lasix after this past fall. Main things, scope your horse and test it to see if there is any inflammatory response or infection. Find what doseage of lasix works for your horse and at what time frame (every horse is different), make sure they are in tip top shape, no high hanging hay or feed at shows or at home and try to minimize dust (wet the hay slightly, etc.). Not sure where you are located but find a good performance vet if you don't have one that knows a lot about bleeders.

 Ditto and I would question the vet why they did not suggest a scope?  A scope is always the first line of defense, you have to know what is actually going on to know how to treat it.  There is a throat condition called neo nasalpharyngeal cicatrix that causes bleeding, cough and runny nose.  It is vey serious and left untreated causes  the throat to scar to the point they need a trach to breathe. 
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