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| I think it depends on the animal. I have a horse who absolutely cannot abide PHT, but loves BOT. His back is looser, we have a shorter warm up time and after a ride with his BOT liner his back is not sore. But I had 2 horses before him who LOVED magnetic blankets and hock boots they would fall asleep with their lips drooping in relaxatin.
My friend loves to wrap up in my BOT blanket at night. She had a bad accident and almost lost her foot. Her ankle has a lot of hardware in it and she loves the BOT at night wrapped around her ankle. When she has groomed a lot of dogs and her back and wrist are bothering her, she sleeps in the mesh sheet and it good to go the next day.
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Location: Texas | P68 - 2017-04-13 9:49 AM Am I the only one who thinks that back on track may just be some silly pseudoscience? I brought a human product to try before considering if it'd be worth it for horses. Using it religiously as instructed, I can't honestly say I've noticed any difference for the better - maybe only worse actually, as my body would just depend on the brace now instead. Maybe I need to give it more time but I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same. . .
I have a chronic sore neck and right shoulder (trapezzeius) muscle. I bought the neck wrap. Wore it religiously for hours during the day. Even slept in it overnight. Felt no difference or improvement.
I bougtht the bell boots for a horse that hardly grows any hoof. He lived in them 24 hours day. No difference or improvement.
Just my experience. 
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Location: Idaho | I think BOT works individually. Kind of like anything else. Ibuprofen is my drug of choice while tylenol does little for me. My mom, Ibuprofen does nothing for her but Asprin works wonders. With BOT, Ive seen benefits in horses with things going on. Injuries, arthritis, chronic pain, etc. But in young horses or horses little or no issues, I dont see any performance difference. I do feel like my horse likes it because he feels special! :), i have a mini that travels with me and i use BOT boots on him because he has been foundered and we battle his laminitis pain and keeping him comfortable. He seems to do well with them (they are the large size dog boots, just fyi) I have lots of different BOT products because I have lots of horses, and feel like if even one of them benefits from it, I will be happy. I did once get stung by a bee. I put one of my horse boots on my arm and it got super warm and pulsated pretty intensely! So i do think they do increase blood flow to inflamation or injuies. But again its all an individual response. :) | |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | It's not voodoo. Ceramics...warming up an area. I think there are some on this thread who are not understanding the product and had strange expectations. Genetics or the severity of an injury, the avoiding a vet bill by trying something else is more the lack of helpfulness. By some of this logic, I suppose I can drape a blanket over the horse and it'll majikally grow a better mane or tail. A hoof isn't going to grow any better by wearing a bell boot. Any bell boot. How about considering genetics is the problem, permanent damage from an injury, a severe compensation not discovered or ignored or a refusal to put serious money into discovering, not a "product".
I have a horse off the track who came with the usual complaint about under run heels from track shoeing. Lots of advice, farrier should do this back this up take more of this yada yada, not a great deal of improvement over months. Radiographs finally showed he has a flat coffin bone. Flat as a pancake on that one side...that's how God made him and how the hoof is going to grow. Flat and forward. Magnets, ceramics, waving a smudge stick or a chicken foot, holding a seance, feeding a million supplements, dancing to call on spirits, speaking the gospel over him, whatever, isn't going to change genetics which is what many here tend to expect in these kinds of discussions when the problem is as at base as can be. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | streakysox - 2017-04-13 10:12 AM
P68 - 2017-04-13 9:49 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that back on track may just be some silly pseudoscience? I brought a human product to try before considering if it'd be worth it for horses. Using it religiously as instructed, I can't honestly say I've noticed any difference for the better - maybe only worse actually, as my body would just depend on the brace now instead. Maybe I need to give it more time but I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same. . .
I am not really into the BOT. I think if your horse has an issue they may be helpful but as a preventative, probably not.
I had to laugh, at Dixie Nationals, some little girl had BOT boots on her horse's legs that came all the way up to the horse's body--long ones, and a sheet on the horse. She was parading the horse up and down the aisle where our stalls were when I was brushing my horse. (we had the only stalls on the entire aisle ) My horse won Jr Barrels and the same girl walked by when we were having a picture made. What a snarl on that kid's face. just thought it was pretty funny.
I bet that little girl was really proud of her horse and being there, I would have struck up a conversation with her, kids like that tickle me and love to talk about their horses. | |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-04-14 12:36 PM
streakysox - 2017-04-13 10:12 AM
P68 - 2017-04-13 9:49 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that back on track may just be some silly pseudoscience? I brought a human product to try before considering if it'd be worth it for horses. Using it religiously as instructed, I can't honestly say I've noticed any difference for the better - maybe only worse actually, as my body would just depend on the brace now instead. Maybe I need to give it more time but I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same. . .
I am not really into the BOT. I think if your horse has an issue they may be helpful but as a preventative, probably not.
I had to laugh, at Dixie Nationals, some little girl had BOT boots on her horse's legs that came all the way up to the horse's body--long ones, and a sheet on the horse. She was parading the horse up and down the aisle where our stalls were when I was brushing my horse. (we had the only stalls on the entire aisle ) My horse won Jr Barrels and the same girl walked by when we were having a picture made. What a snarl on that kid's face. just thought it was pretty funny.
I bet that little girl was really proud of her horse and being there, I would have struck up a conversation with her, kids like that tickle me and love to talk about their horses.
I would have, too. My niece is like that whenever she gets anything new that has to do with showing heifers. When she was little, her momma only paid attention to them if they were doing things with the show cattle. She learned the only way to get attention was through the cows. Breaks my heart that such a kind, beautiful girl is so needy for approval. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2017-04-14 6:16 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-04-14 12:36 PM streakysox - 2017-04-13 10:12 AM P68 - 2017-04-13 9:49 AM Am I the only one who thinks that back on track may just be some silly pseudoscience? I brought a human product to try before considering if it'd be worth it for horses. Using it religiously as instructed, I can't honestly say I've noticed any difference for the better - maybe only worse actually, as my body would just depend on the brace now instead. Maybe I need to give it more time but I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same. . . I am not really into the BOT. I think if your horse has an issue they may be helpful but as a preventative, probably not. I had to laugh, at Dixie Nationals, some little girl had BOT boots on her horse's legs that came all the way up to the horse's body--long ones, and a sheet on the horse. She was parading the horse up and down the aisle where our stalls were when I was brushing my horse. (we had the only stalls on the entire aisle ) My horse won Jr Barrels and the same girl walked by when we were having a picture made. What a snarl on that kid's face. just thought it was pretty funny. I bet that little girl was really proud of her horse and being there, I would have struck up a conversation with her, kids like that tickle me and love to talk about their horses. I would have, too. My niece is like that whenever she gets anything new that has to do with showing heifers. When she was little, her momma only paid attention to them if they were doing things with the show cattle. She learned the only way to get attention was through the cows. Breaks my heart that such a kind, beautiful girl is so needy for approval.
Exactly, most of the kids that I would encounter at barrel races are always looking for a commplement and a little attention and I was always the one that loved doing that to these kids, most adults now adays are too busy patting themselves on the back to pay a little attention to a kid. I think we were all this kid at some time in our childhood. | |
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| P68 - 2017-04-13 9:49 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that back on track may just be some silly pseudoscience? I brought a human product to try before considering if it'd be worth it for horses. Using it religiously as instructed, I can't honestly say I've noticed any difference for the better - maybe only worse actually, as my body would just depend on the brace now instead. Maybe I need to give it more time but I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same. . .
Each person/horse will react differently to different products.
Do I think it is pseudoscience, no. The back on track actually did thermography before and after on horses. No it isn't a double blind study, and I don't believe it has been published in peer reviewed journals, but atleast I could visually see the difference, this made me a believer. Pht as far as I am aware have never done any trials/research to prove their product but people swear by it.
I had one mare who cut her hock to the bone, her entire leg blew up above the hock. I put the quick wrap on within an hour all the swelling in her leg was gone above and below the wrap. She wore it for 6 months, every time I would pull it off, her leg would blow back up, put the quick wrap back on the swelling resolved. Her hock is normal size and only a small scar.
This made me a believer | |
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