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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-01 3:20 PM
Subject: Anhidrosis/Infection/Heaves? Need thoughts



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This is a long story, I will do my best to sum it up for the most part. I bought a 3 year old a few months ago. Everything was fine, other than she was a bit underweight for my liking. I started her on free choice alfalfa and Seminole Dyna Sport. The previous owner fed coastal and a little alfalfa. The only other thing I noticed was a slight cough when I started to warm up. I thought maybe it was just from the dust. A few weeks later I came out and she blowing very hard, not a drop of sweat. She had completely shut down and had nasal discharge out of her right nostril. I called my parents vet, who is a bit old school, but great with their livestock. He said in reference to the sweating, not much we can do there. However, he felt the nasal discharge maybe 1-Allergies or 2-Sinus infection. We pulled blood and everything came back normal. The did have a 104 body temp, but he felt that was because of the non sweating. He gave me antihistamines and I started her in One A/C, Bananine and Lyte Up electrolytes. A few days go by, nothing has changed. I call out my vet. She comes out, takes her temp.it is 102. All of her gut sounds are normal. She gives me Bactrim and says let's see what this does. She starts to sweat a little and discharge clears up. I finish the Bactrim, we seem to be moving in the right direction. I ride her and the cough is still there. She falls right back to where she was before, not sweating and nasal discharge out of both nostrils one day and then just the one nostril. Again, the discharge is white-ish. We started another round of Bactrim and I'm using an Equii-winner patch on her. She is sweating somewhat, but she is breathing very, very heavy. She has abdominal movement, nasal flare and looks real drawed up in her flanks, but is drinking and eating well. She is not wheezing when she breaths. I spoke to my vet and she is coming out to pull blood work and scope her. I'm working hard to ensure she's managed properly and keep her comfortable. Her temp was 101.8 this morning with heavy breathing and nasal flare at rest. I keep her up during the day under the fan, out at night and twice a day rinse off. I'm really like this filly, but I'm running out of ideas. I know I should wait until she is scoped, but I wanted to see if anyone has had similar experiences. We are going on about 7 weeks of this and it's frustrating and heartbreaking. I forgot to say, I recently switched her over to free choice orchard hay. She has a stall with sand/shavings and a run attached that is sand. The dust has gone down due to all the rain. She's fed on the ground and I haven't seen her cough while eating. Thoughts? Ideas? Thanks
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-01 4:42 PM
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 May be COPD, keep off pasture, no coastal and see if she gets better.  I have a non sweater and dark ale beer helps him. 
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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-01 6:16 PM
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How was your horse diagnosed with COPD? Signs, symptoms? Treatment?
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-01 8:04 PM
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 Coughing and runny nose are signs of COPD, there is also a condition called nasopharyngeal cicatrix that causes swelling and scaring on the larynx, both are diagnosed by scoping and a throat wash for COPD.   It also could be allergies.   I put my COPD horse on CurOst and he has been able to go out and graze.   The cicatrix is an allergic reaction to do something  in the pasture. 
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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-01 8:34 PM
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 Thank you! She is getting scoped next week. If reference to your horse, can you use him as a performance horse or is that out of the question. I'm praying it's nothing serious. I really like her. 
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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2017-07-01 8:38 PM
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I wouldn't rule out pneumonia or COPD. I would have a BAL done and go from there . That should let you know what's going on.

For the sweating:

1 tablespoon of Lite Salt (grocery store) and 1 tablespoon of regular salt in the feed once/day until they sweat (5-10) days. Cut the dose I. Half once they're sweating normally.
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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-01 8:55 PM
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 What is a BAL? 
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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2017-07-01 9:50 PM
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JRJ - 2017-07-01 8:55 PM

Β What is a BAL?Β 

Bronchoalveolar Lavage. Diagnostic test used to help determine airway disease.
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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-02 2:51 AM
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^^^Thank you!!
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2017-07-02 8:25 AM
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Was she swabbed for strangles?
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-02 10:04 AM
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 Yes,  he still is competing.   This summer he has not had a cough or runny nose.   I don't know if it is the supplement working or a change in the pasture.  Last summer was extremely wet, this summer is much drier.   I had a BAL don't too, doesn't show specifically what they are allergic too just that they are having a reaction to something. 

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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-02 11:50 AM
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No, she was not swabbed for strangles. I will bring that up when the vet comes out.
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MidWest1452
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2017-07-02 1:50 PM
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Non-sweating and COPD seems to be two problems that seem to go together. It was recently pointed out to me that my COPD mare doesn't sweat like she should. She sweat well last summer so I know the issue hasn't been going on for too long. I am thinking about her all her health issues last fall this might have become a problem. I then stated doing some research on it and many COPD horses tend to have this issue. I'm still working on trying to figure this out all out with my mare. Her breathing is good and clear but when the last time my vet saw her recently cause she was breathing heavy, put it together that her lungs sounded clear and not wheezy she just wasn't cooling like she should. She won't eat salt in her feed so that is out, I tried the lite salt and regular salt.. have not tried beer yet.. Let me know if you have any luck with something.

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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2017-07-02 10:27 PM
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IMO, your horse is sick with something. Ruling out strangles would be a good idea. 
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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-03 3:14 AM
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Thank y'all so much!  
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JRJ
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-07-03 10:56 PM
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Anyone else have ideas?
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2017-07-04 5:36 PM
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What I can tell you is that we are having amazing results with the Rebar Ranch Naturals Lung Health Formula and Equine Drench. It actually heals things from the inside, on a cellular level. You can check out the products online... it is all natural and satisfaction guaranteed or you are refunded your purchase price.

http://www.rebarranchnaturals.com/lung-health-formula.html

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MidWest1452
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2017-07-06 10:35 AM
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Any update?
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Turnburnsis
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2017-09-12 10:22 PM
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I know this is a couple months old. Hope you figured out your problem if not maybe check to see if allergic to orchard hay bc my friends horse just recently had allergy test done and it came back he was allergic to orchard hay. Just a thought I have had allergy issues a long time and I am thinking bout doing an allergy test to see what he is allergic to in case it is something I can control
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