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   Location: ND | Ive never really had shoes on any, always ran barefoot intil now. Last month I put shoes and wedges on my 5 yr old (vets suggestion) but today I saw she had bent one. Here is my delema. The shoer is coming on Tuesday but on Sunday I was going to take her to her first barrel race. Not going to run her just do a time slot and slow lope her through. Do you guys think that would be okay to do? I rode her today in soft dirt and she was good. Just one nail came out the rest of the shoe is still on there solid. Ill post a picture too. Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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  Ms. Marine
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     Location: Texas | I wouldn't ride with a bent shoe like that. If it were my horse I would pull both shoes and call my farrier. |
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     Location: Muskogee, OK | Definitely no to riding with the shoe like that, you'll just be asking for a more severe injury. If it were my horse I probably would air on the side of caution. Definitely pull the shoe and skip the race this weekend. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | You need to pull that shoe off as soon as you can, do it yourself, dont be riding her this way.. There would be no way I would ride with a shoe bent, even with just a tiny bent, that shoe is bent pretty bad. |
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| Nope. Sorry.
Unfortunately the wedges may make it more difficult to keep a shoe on - you may want to look into putting her in the longer rubber pull on bell boots.
Yanked shoes at horrible times was why we went barefoot. |
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   Location: ND | I called my shoer he said he cant make it out any sooner. He said make sure I have a good rasp to get the heads off. Any other tips to pull them? |
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| RidinOnFaith35 - 2017-07-27 5:06 PM
I called my shoer he said he cant make it out any sooner. He said make sure I have a good rasp to get the heads off. Any other tips to pull them?
Do you have a pair of pullers? Get the heads off, good and flush - they should look square, if they are rectangle you still have some clinch left.
If you don't have shoe pullers I would pull the bent one, a longer pair of pliers or channel locks should pry that one off, get under the bent end and just work it around. Then I would duct tape the pad back on to keep her more even. I wouldn't attempt the other shoe if it's still on tight without pullers - unless someone else has a handy trick. |
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| And you DO NOT need to pull BOTH shoes - that used to make my ex (a farrier) want to scream. There's no reason to pull the other. |
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   Location: ND | She out in the pasture. Wont she be uneven amd make herself sore if she is like that for a couple days? |
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Go Get Em!
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     Location: OH. IO | RidinOnFaith35 - 2017-07-28 8:24 AM
She out in the pasture. Wont she be uneven amd make herself sore if she is like that for a couple days?
You need to get the shoe OFF. |
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       Location: North Dakota | RidinOnFaith35 - 2017-07-27 3:08 PM Ive never really had shoes on any, always ran barefoot intil now. Last month I put shoes and wedges on my 5 yr old (vets suggestion) but today I saw she had bent one. Here is my delema. The shoer is coming on Tuesday but on Sunday I was going to take her to her first barrel race. Not going to run her just do a time slot and slow lope her through. Do you guys think that would be okay to do? I rode her today in soft dirt and she was good. Just one nail came out the rest of the shoe is still on there solid. Ill post a picture too. Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance!
I would do what you can to get that shoe OFF. In my opinion, it is not good for her to be walking around on a bent shoe even for a day. There's a reason you've got her in wedges and shoes and a bent shoe won't help your cause.
Go on YouTube and get some visuals to pull a shoe. You don't have to rasp/cut the nailheads but it will be easier if you do. You can get the job done with a normal nippers and rasp. I'm not very good at it, but I can pull a shoe slowly if needed.
If your farrier cannot get to you before the barrel race .... personally, I would not run a horse that has corrective shoeing and is missing one. My horse Red also has wedges and front shoes for a reason and if he would pull one, I would not run him. I have run horses before with a missing shoe but they didn't have any issues that required shoes, besides just wanting better traction. But ultimately, it is up to you if you should run her with missing a shoe (once you get it pulled).
But you do need to get that bent shoe off her. |
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         Location: Louisiana | RidinOnFaith35 - 2017-07-28 7:24 AM
She out in the pasture. Wont she be uneven amd make herself sore if she is like that for a couple days?
Not unless she has major issues and/or you ride her on hard ground like that. She should be fine.
I would run with 3 shoes before I'd even ride around with a bent shoe like that. |
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| RidinOnFaith35 - 2017-07-27 3:08 PM
Ive never really had shoes on any, always ran barefoot intil now. Last month I put shoes and wedges on my 5 yr old (vets suggestion) but today I saw she had bent one. Here is my delema. The shoer is coming on Tuesday but on Sunday I was going to take her to her first barrel race. Not going to run her just do a time slot and slow lope her through. Do you guys think that would be okay to do? I rode her today in soft dirt and she was good. Just one nail came out the rest of the shoe is still on there solid. Ill post a picture too. Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Have any of you looked at that picture ??
That is the nastiest cracked heel and no growth heel I have ever seen ..
without all of the protection and you run her ..
that crack is going to cripple her for months !
If you pull the shoe and riser .. it will be like you running
around with only one high heeled shoe on ... lol
And why is anyone talking of grinding off the heads of the nails?
If you have nothing else .. just take a pair of needle nose
pliers and bend the clenched part strait up..
when you have done this to all the nails ..
take a big flat blade screwdriver and a pair of big pliers
and pull the bent shoe off ..
Your farrier is faced with a tuff situation. The wedge creates
a spongy area which loosens the nails that have a very poor
hoof to try to hang on to. Along with the wedge causing a
horse to pull a shoe more often. With this bent shoe issue ..
it may not leave anything to hang a nail in???
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2017-07-31 1:25 AM
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   Location: ND | Do you guys have any suggestions for heel growth? I realize she doesn't have the greatest feet, she has been to the vet, xrayed, and the wedges were what she recommended. Also I have a great shoer that explains everything to me and is very knowledgeable so she is in good hands. |
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| Pull the toe back hard, make sure the heels that are there are rasped. How does her frogs look? If they aren't fat and wide, the farrier needed to be taking a little more (sometimes only a single rasp stroke) months ago. If you've got a narrow frog and deep suculus ridges it's because not enough foot is touching the ground and the hoof wall heels have been left too tall. That said, if this horse had ever had any sinking or rotation, it might need the pads. Can you take a picture of the bottom of the hoof when you get the shoe pulled? |
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       Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | RidinOnFaith35 - 2017-07-28 8:24 AM She out in the pasture. Wont she be uneven amd make herself sore if she is like that for a couple days?
You could try to duct tape her foot up with cotton/vet wrap under it to give her something for support. But yeah, that shoe needs off asap. Farriers formula double strength help my one grow a bit more heel and a stronger hoof, but overall (aside from bad farriers) genetics and confirmation affect bad feet more than anything. The one I'm talking about will never have a fabulous heel, he's just not built that way. |
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| RidinOnFaith35 - 2017-07-31 4:53 PM
Do you guys have any suggestions for heel growth? I realize she doesn't have the greatest feet, she has been to the vet, xrayed, and the wedges were what she recommended. Also I have a great shoer that explains everything to me and is very knowledgeable so she is in good hands.
I am going thru the same problem. No heel.
I called and talked to the people at TLC Animal Nutrition because I've heard such good things about Equi-bone. They were super nice and knowledgeable. I told them my whole sorted story. I am starting the Equi-bone along with the Heel Complex. You might just need the Heel and/or Hoof Complex, but it'd be worth talking to them about. |
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