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| The hubby's head horse has started bucking out of the blue. he has owned this horse for about 6 months or so. He bought him from a roping friend who had him over a year and they all rope together. he has been around this horse the whole time.
2 months again he started bucking randomly and has bucked the hubby off 2x now....once in the middle of roping and once just warming up. He's not bucking every time...its very random with no apparent triggers. Once my hubby is dumped he has continued to buck hard all the way around the arena.
16 hds
10 year old
gelding
lives outside on good pasture
fed whole oats
quiet and good natured on the ground & was the same way in the saddle until 2 months ago.
Vet checked 1 month ago, injected coffin joint on FR, no other issues...
Saddle fit is very good, no soreness
teeth are fine
shoeing is good
Hubby is a typical roper and pulls him out on Fridays and Saturdays and ropes...no much riding during the weekday since hay season began. This was also the case before the hubby got this horse as well....so the not riding part is not new to this horse.
He is going back to the vet on Sat morning and going over him again to make sure it is not a soreness/pain issue and not the fact that he is just a "counterfeit bastard" as the hubby says.
we are racking our brain to make sure we haven't missed something.
we are going to ask about ulcers ( we forgot last time...we had 4 other horses there with us) and if that would cause the issue of bucking although there is no pinning of ears etc. to make you think there is a problem.
Am I missing something?
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Location: Somewhere in the USA | My first thought is EPM, second thought is ill fitting saddle(broken tree or twisted tree) |
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| Did he ever buck with previous owner?
Even though you said saddle fit was good, I'd be putting my $$ on the saddle fit. |
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| No and previous owner was a timid older lady roper....the opportunity was there if he wanted to...
There are no dry spots, rubs etc. on his back, vet (who is a chiro and acupuncturist as well) checked everything and said he had one of the best backs she'd seen of a head horse.
Its been the same saddle from the first day, no pad changes, no girth changes, nothing...same entire set up the whole time.
Edited to say: He is going to ride again tonight and try a different saddle to see if that helps though...it will be hard to pinpoint the saddle though bc the bucking is random.
Edited by Wishful 2017-08-03 12:05 PM
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| Wishful - 2017-08-03 11:56 AM
No and previous owner was a timid older lady roper....the opportunity was there if he wanted to...
There are no dry spots, rubs etc. on his back, vet (who is a chiro and acupuncturist as well) checked everything and said he had one of the best backs she'd seen of a head horse.
Its been the same saddle from the first day, no pad changes, no girth changes, nothing...same entire set up the whole time.
I just got a horse that was used for heading. He was very stoic, did not show pain. My massage therapist said his back was great and was surprised there was no soreness. BUT when a Masterson bodyworker looked at him, she felt that his nonreaction to the body checks were not normal. Her reasoning was that he SHOULD be sore somewhere, that is just normal. Just like even when you work out regularly, you still get a little sore. She has worked on him once a month for the 3 months I have had him. He is just now trusting us enough to show where he is sore. I have not ridden him once since I got him its just been so hot and I have been playing with my new grandbaby.
Maybe your horse is like this and since his owner before was an older more timid rider, he didn't work as hard for her, so he wasn't sore. Therefore, he didn't buck. I have always found that if a horse starts bucking out of the blue, it is pain related some way.
Good luck figuring this out and when you do, update us if you don't mind.  |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | This may seem to simple but I watched a deadhead horse take a full out fit because he hated the saddle pad our friend was using. She switched out pads and never had an issue again. |
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Location: Upstate New York | We had one just like this, except he was a calf roping horse. If you roped before you got mid-way down the pen, he was great. BUT,,,,if you didn't rope before he hit that imaginary spot, he would break in 2. He could put some of the best saddle broncs to shame. And he would continue to buck after you were off until you walked up to him. After he dumped me 1 too many times, "Bye Felicia." |
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| Treat him for ULCERS!
People think I'm crazy when I tell them about my gelding. I bought him cheap because he bucked a lady off and put her in the hospital. He's not a malicious horse at all and not cinch'y or cold backed. I treated him for ulcers (28 days omeprazole), kept him on U guard and aloe juice daily after and gave him a flake of alfalfa an hour before running him. No problems.
About 2 years later I thought geesh, I'm spending a lot of money on all this stuff. Lets take him off and see. He was fine for a while but then started acting like he wanted to buck again. Did the omeprazole treatment again and he went right back to working again.
If you cannot find anything else wrong treat him for ulcers. Its worth a try.
Edited by turnthree 2017-08-03 12:20 PM
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| Trainer kept telling me how sweet my 4 year old was. She was so laid back. Then she got cinchy. I was ding an exhibition on her and she bucked me off. Had her at the vet on Tuesday because it was so out of character for her. Vet said ULCERS. We treated her and she is back to her sweet laid back self. She gets that new Purina Outlast now.
Get the horse checked for ulcers. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Kissing Spine. |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | I was thinking of something like that "kissing spine" too. I don't know much about it but I wonder if the lady was so much lighter than your husband and his weight is triggering it?
I think it's interesting that he continues to buck down the arena after he gets your husband off. What could that mean? Usually they'll stop. They got what they wanted. What would still be hurting? Assuming it's pain.... |
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Location: in the ozone | Lyme disease
EPM
PSSM - either type 1 or one of the PSSM2 variants (more likely P2)
Ulcers
those would be my thoughts
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Location: Oklahoma | Could be anything! I will throw a new one at you! my horse went to bucking and took him to 3 different vets and he moved so nice they told me nothing wrong but I knew missing something! So the forth vet told me the same as the other 3 vets and I told him look there is something he is a talker. So vet said have you scooped him I said no he said lets do it for the heck of it since nothing else showing and he moved like a million bucks. and low and behold he was so full of mucous and blisters all up and down! he never had a snotty nose or runny eyes no show of sickness! Got him over that and he was good. my horse only bucks when something is terribly wrong! I fix and he good til something else comes along! there is always something! lol |
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Location: Texas | GoMistyGo - 2017-08-03 1:41 PM
Kissing Spine.
My first thought too |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | any tack changes at all? Bit, saddle pad, boots, saddle, bridle, reins |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would check your saddle over very good make sure the tree has not been broken and theres no screws backing out, is this a team roping horse or calf horse? Just wondering what type of roping horse he is, but make sure your tree is sound.. |
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Location: IL | Ulcers....my old mare used to do this. I gave her on dose of omeprazole and I could tell she felt way better. No more bucking with omeprazole. |
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