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Location: California | rodeomom3 - 2017-08-07 10:44 AM
LMS - 2017-08-07 11:48 AM *almost there* - 2017-08-07 11:07 AM LMS - 2017-08-07 6:18 AM There are a lot of owners that don't live in reality. With that said, I do not have anything for sale, BUT I know that if I had to sell mine, they would be priced to gain enough attention and be sold within a week. My 8 year old frenchmens guy grandson out of a Texas highdasher grandaughter who's a solid 3D horse and started on the heading side would be priced at $7k and he would most likely be gone in a few days. Would I like $15k for him-sure BUT the only way I would sell is if I HAD to have the money. People that complain about a horse not selling usually don't like the horse AND have an overinflated idea that the horse would be MAGICAL with someone else. There are so many that sell based on the potential of the horse-meaning the stars and moon have to line up to have a nice run etc. OR what someone else is doing with a similarly bred horse in some other state. Your predicament is exactly why we buy yearlings, 1 we can afford them and 2 we only buy for ourselves-so they are broke the way we like and do what we want to do-if they don't turn out-they can be dumped and the only thing we've lost is our time and hay. Good luck in your search-it has to be frustrating. do you think he is worth 15k? Do horses sell at that price that are equal to his quality where you are at? People ask that up here, but those horses just sit on the market.
My question was genuine. I see a lot of horses with same credentials priced at 15 that don't move. I was wondering if the market sold better where she was. | |
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Location: North Dakota | *almost there* - 2017-08-07 12:50 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-08-07 10:44 AM LMS - 2017-08-07 11:48 AM *almost there* - 2017-08-07 11:07 AM LMS - 2017-08-07 6:18 AM There are a lot of owners that don't live in reality. With that said, I do not have anything for sale, BUT I know that if I had to sell mine, they would be priced to gain enough attention and be sold within a week. My 8 year old frenchmens guy grandson out of a Texas highdasher grandaughter who's a solid 3D horse and started on the heading side would be priced at $7k and he would most likely be gone in a few days. Would I like $15k for him-sure BUT the only way I would sell is if I HAD to have the money. People that complain about a horse not selling usually don't like the horse AND have an overinflated idea that the horse would be MAGICAL with someone else. There are so many that sell based on the potential of the horse-meaning the stars and moon have to line up to have a nice run etc. OR what someone else is doing with a similarly bred horse in some other state. Your predicament is exactly why we buy yearlings, 1 we can afford them and 2 we only buy for ourselves-so they are broke the way we like and do what we want to do-if they don't turn out-they can be dumped and the only thing we've lost is our time and hay. Good luck in your search-it has to be frustrating. do you think he is worth 15k? Do horses sell at that price that are equal to his quality where you are at? People ask that up here, but those horses just sit on the market. My question was genuine. I see a lot of horses with same credentials priced at 15 that don't move. I was wondering if the market sold better where she was.
Well, in all honesty, you have to weed out a bunch of crap until you find good, honest horses no matter where you live. | |
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| *almost there* - 2017-08-07 12:50 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-08-07 10:44 AM LMS - 2017-08-07 11:48 AM *almost there* - 2017-08-07 11:07 AM LMS - 2017-08-07 6:18 AM There are a lot of owners that don't live in reality. With that said, I do not have anything for sale, BUT I know that if I had to sell mine, they would be priced to gain enough attention and be sold within a week. My 8 year old frenchmens guy grandson out of a Texas highdasher grandaughter who's a solid 3D horse and started on the heading side would be priced at $7k and he would most likely be gone in a few days. Would I like $15k for him-sure BUT the only way I would sell is if I HAD to have the money. People that complain about a horse not selling usually don't like the horse AND have an overinflated idea that the horse would be MAGICAL with someone else. There are so many that sell based on the potential of the horse-meaning the stars and moon have to line up to have a nice run etc. OR what someone else is doing with a similarly bred horse in some other state. Your predicament is exactly why we buy yearlings, 1 we can afford them and 2 we only buy for ourselves-so they are broke the way we like and do what we want to do-if they don't turn out-they can be dumped and the only thing we've lost is our time and hay. Good luck in your search-it has to be frustrating. do you think he is worth 15k? Do horses sell at that price that are equal to his quality where you are at? People ask that up here, but those horses just sit on the market. My question was genuine. I see a lot of horses with same credentials priced at 15 that don't move. I was wondering if the market sold better where she was.
Where I am they do sell, but the good ones, the ones that are honest, been there done that, usually go by word of mouth before the ink dries on the add. | |
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| My daughter tried selling her mare for a long time before giving up. She was a solid 3D horse occasionally clocking in 2d(based on normal arena times, not bc no one showed up that day) 7k. She was honest, same trip, go as fast or slow as you asked, not hot at all. Several of the young girls that came and tried her NEEDED her and not the well bred, hot mess they were having issues with. Here's the conclusion I've come to. Bloodlines and who trained the horse have become trendy and people, particularly new to the industry, get sucked into believing they can only win by owning one of those horses. So many people aren't realistic about their skill or goals. For every DTF that's winning now there are at least 100 not. Plenty of culls | |
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Location: California | iloveequine40 - 2017-08-07 11:39 AM My daughter tried selling her mare for a long time before giving up. She was a solid 3D horse occasionally clocking in 2d(based on normal arena times, not bc no one showed up that day) 7k. She was honest, same trip, go as fast or slow as you asked, not hot at all. Several of the young girls that came and tried her NEEDED her and not the well bred, hot mess they were having issues with. Here's the conclusion I've come to. Bloodlines and who trained the horse have become trendy and people, particularly new to the industry, get sucked into believing they can only win by owning one of those horses. So many people aren't realistic about their skill or goals. For every DTF that's winning now there are at least 100 not. Plenty of culls
Yes, I love DTF and he has some really nice sons that airings pretty well, but people forget how big his foal crops were/are. More chances to have a winner when there's more of them on the ground. | |
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| Griz - 2017-08-07 9:19 AM
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Griz - 2017-08-07 5:46 AM
I have one that's about to make me tear my hair out - nicely bred, grey, 2D but she pulls back and I am DONE with her. I have had her with a guy since MAY trying to sell her - I'm asking $5000 - so NOT too much. I don't want to take her back as I won't do anything with her but geez, she's costing me $500 every month. Talk about a money pit.
So what's been your best offer and when will you reduce the price?
She started at $10K, so price has been halved. I have even offered for a trade but I'm NOT trading for just any pile of bones either.
Take her to a trainer who will run her for ya. The more exposure, the quicker you will sell her. Had a friend who bought a gelding for $2500, tried to sell him for $2500. Couldnt get that price. She took him to her trainers, the tainer ran him 1-2x per month for about 4 months. Sold him for $15k. | |
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| *almost there* - 2017-08-07 2:29 PM
iloveequine40 - 2017-08-07 11:39 AM My daughter tried selling her mare for a long time before giving up. She was a solid 3D horse occasionally clocking in 2d(based on normal arena times, not bc no one showed up that day) 7k. She was honest, same trip, go as fast or slow as you asked, not hot at all. Several of the young girls that came and tried her NEEDED her and not the well bred, hot mess they were having issues with. Here's the conclusion I've come to. Bloodlines and who trained the horse have become trendy and people, particularly new to the industry, get sucked into believing they can only win by owning one of those horses. So many people aren't realistic about their skill or goals. For every DTF that's winning now there are at least 100 not. Plenty of culls
Yes, I love DTF and he has some really nice sons that airings pretty well, but people forget how big his foal crops were/are. More chances to have a winner when there's more of them on the ground.
This is also why I believe there is so much disappointment/frustration in this industry. Everyone highlights the exception and not the rule, so to speak, and it falsely lures people into believing breeding is the dominant factor in their success | |
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Location: California | iloveequine40 - 2017-08-07 3:29 PM *almost there* - 2017-08-07 2:29 PM iloveequine40 - 2017-08-07 11:39 AM My daughter tried selling her mare for a long time before giving up. She was a solid 3D horse occasionally clocking in 2d(based on normal arena times, not bc no one showed up that day) 7k. She was honest, same trip, go as fast or slow as you asked, not hot at all. Several of the young girls that came and tried her NEEDED her and not the well bred, hot mess they were having issues with. Here's the conclusion I've come to. Bloodlines and who trained the horse have become trendy and people, particularly new to the industry, get sucked into believing they can only win by owning one of those horses. So many people aren't realistic about their skill or goals. For every DTF that's winning now there are at least 100 not. Plenty of culls Yes, I love DTF and he has some really nice sons that airings pretty well, but people forget how big his foal crops were/are. More chances to have a winner when there's more of them on the ground. This is also why I believe there is so much disappointment/frustration in this industry. Everyone highlights the exception and not the rule, so to speak, and it falsely lures people into believing breeding is the dominant factor in their success
Look at Shawnee Bug Leo, he sires a lot of consistent winners in a lot smaller foal crops, but you can barely make anything on his foals if you breed to him for resale. It's a popularity contest. | |
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| Griz - 2017-08-07 6:46 AM
I have one that's about to make me tear my hair out - nicely bred, grey, 2D but she pulls back and I am DONE with her. I have had her with a guy since MAY trying to sell her - I'm asking $5000 - so NOT too much. I don't want to take her back as I won't do anything with her but geez, she's costing me $500 every month. Talk about a money pit.
Can you pm me some info about her? I've been looking for something just like her! | |
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| *almost there* - 2017-08-07 5:41 PM
iloveequine40 - 2017-08-07 3:29 PM *almost there* - 2017-08-07 2:29 PM iloveequine40 - 2017-08-07 11:39 AM My daughter tried selling her mare for a long time before giving up. She was a solid 3D horse occasionally clocking in 2d(based on normal arena times, not bc no one showed up that day) 7k. She was honest, same trip, go as fast or slow as you asked, not hot at all. Several of the young girls that came and tried her NEEDED her and not the well bred, hot mess they were having issues with. Here's the conclusion I've come to. Bloodlines and who trained the horse have become trendy and people, particularly new to the industry, get sucked into believing they can only win by owning one of those horses. So many people aren't realistic about their skill or goals. For every DTF that's winning now there are at least 100 not. Plenty of culls Yes, I love DTF and he has some really nice sons that airings pretty well, but people forget how big his foal crops were/are. More chances to have a winner when there's more of them on the ground. This is also why I believe there is so much disappointment/frustration in this industry. Everyone highlights the exception and not the rule, so to speak, and it falsely lures people into believing breeding is the dominant factor in their success
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| Well, this post must have helped the lady looking at her to $hit or get off the pot - she is SUPPOSED to have the money by the 18th of this month to buy my mare - OH, I EVEN offered to take payments on her - providing I would KEEP her until paid in full - (been burned before)! I absolutely DESPISE selling for this reason. I am not running a charity, I'm selling a horse! Good grief, I took a loan out on my truck to buy her, so I don't have a lot of sympathy for those who can't come up with funds! (And yes, dumb on my part for the loan - it's been paid off for a long time now).
It would be a crying shame to let this mare sit in a pasture, which is why I tried so hard to sell her - the guy selling her for me HAS been hauling and winning checks with her - but costing me $500/month - so I have already spent $1500 to sell a $5000 horse - not much sense but even worse to bring her home and do nothing with her.
This is a good post as I wondered what people do when they can't sell one either. | |
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| I didn't read this thread to the full but if your horse shopping, I don't think it's offensive to tell the buyers what you can or are willing to pay. If they get in a bind or tired of marketing the horse they may call you back and take your offer. I had it happen twice when buying a saddle. | |
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