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My magic mix was:
Pulling off hay completely. I feed alfalfa pellets.
Rx antihistamine Hydroxyzine
Pala-tech F.A. granules omega fatty acid supplement (there was a clinical study comparing this and treating with steroids; this supplement worked just as good without the steroid risk or side effects)
Respiratory issues are not fun. Actually I think they are the most difficult to diagnose. Good luck! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | My big fella I suspect having COPD, I put him on Oxy-Gen 2x ProB, man has that made a world of different in him, I was finding mucus in his water and sometimes in his pen and he would cough a bit here and there, tryed different type of supplements on him and just didnt like the results I was seeing, the Oxy-gen is the only supplement I have found that I'm happy with, going to be taking him in for a scope and Bal in the next month I'm hoping but since I got him on this suppelment theres been a big inprovement. Trying to keep him in a dust free area is hard during the summer months and he cant be turn out to pasture cause hes IR, so watching his hay, he does have a big turn out area and thats helping too. But if I were you I would talk to someone about the Oxy-gen and try that for awhile, pm me and I can tell you who to talk to if your intersted.. She was a big help for me  |
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| Thank you!! I've had a friend who's recommended the Hydroxyzine so I'll check it out. Do you feed something besides the alfalfa pellets? Another grain or only those? And what is the omega fatty acid supplement? Name? Thanks again! |
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| hbrandranch - 2017-09-28 8:02 AM
Hummmm, I'll check out the meds for other species. Have you used it yourself?
Also will see about getting a BAL done on her. I don't know why the vets haven't suggested to do one? 
I'm rather confused to because that's where your problem is. You don't know what you're dealing with. Since they didn't do a BAL you don't know if it's infectious and what type of antibiotics to use or if there are inflammatory cells within the lungs. Which would find if it is IAD or COPD. lt is pertinent when you have a respiratory problem to get a BAL done. |
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| hbrandranch - 2017-09-28 11:47 AMThank you!! I've had a friend who's recommended the Hydroxyzine so I'll check it out. Do you feed something besides the alfalfa pellets? Another grain or only those? And what is the omega fatty acid supplement? Name? Thanks again! Feed your regular grain but feed alfalfa cubes, pellets or Chaffhaye at the same rate as regular hay. 1.5 to 2% bodyweight. My 1000 lbs gelding gets 16 lbs alfalfa cubes and 3 lbs of regular feed and he looks great.EDITED TO ADD do not change his diet until after your bal to see what you are dealing with. I'd e so frustrated I'd go to someone else.
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| hbrandranch - 2017-09-28 11:47 AM
Thank you!! I've had a friend who's recommended the Hydroxyzine so I'll check it out. Do you feed something besides the alfalfa pellets? Another grain or only those? And what is the omega fatty acid supplement? Name? Thanks again!
Yes. I feed Renew Gold and oats. The omega fatty acid supplement is made by Pala-Tech and called Equine FA/Plus granules. I get mine from www.allivet.com
I previously fed Total Equine and it worked well with this mare. But it's hard to get in my area and my other mare has some feet issues and it has a high NSC value which she didn't need. So switched both to Renew Gold and oats about a month ago. Both doing very well.
I'd also add my allergy mare is not stalled...she runs in and out 24/7. Stalling without adequate ventilation will do a number on them. I have a small barn, so I try to hose it down every 2 weeks or so to knock the dust down. |
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Location: Oregon | Oxy-Gen 2X ProB was developed for COPD and respiratory/breathing issues and there are many happy customers, and horses, on this product. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Katie's - 2017-09-28 12:46 PM Oxy-Gen 2X ProB was developed for COPD and respiratory/breathing issues and there are many happy customers, and horses, on this product.
Yep and I'm one of them Happy Customers and so is Melvin.  |
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Location: NE Texas | Cur-OST EQ Total Support combined with EQ Immune & Repair one billion percent. I had tried every product out there and when nothing helped, I then spent thousands upon thousands with several differnt vets and no improvment. On 10cc of Ventipulmin with Dex my horse couldn't take a deep enough breath to cough. After a couple of weeks of consulting with Dr. Schell, he asked me to give him two weeks on his program, so I did. Stopped all medications cold turkey, changed my feed regimen completely (removed all processed grains) and went all in. Best decision ever. Three years later, I haven't had another issue with my horse who many vets told me there was nothing more that could be done. Coolest part is all of the other things with this horse that improved beyond his breathing. No more joint soreness, lower back soreness, his attitude complete changed. Not to mention you get stomach support, immune support, overall joint support, not to mention your horse will BLOOM in ways you can't imagine and sustain on much less. I will never be without the Cur-OST products in my barn! |
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Location: Oregon | Southtxponygirl - 2017-09-28 11:15 AM Katie's - 2017-09-28 12:46 PM Oxy-Gen 2X ProB was developed for COPD and respiratory/breathing issues and there are many happy customers, and horses, on this product. Yep and I'm one of them Happy Customers and so is Melvin.
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| Thanks everyone for the info & suggestions! I have an appt. tomorrow afternoon for the BAL. I'll post again after we get the results. Thanks again, I appreciate your input!!
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| hbrandranch - 2017-10-01 8:04 AM
Thanks everyone for the info & suggestions! I have an appt. tomorrow afternoon for the BAL. I'll post again after we get the results. Thanks again, I appreciate your input!!
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| Just got the call back from the vet and the results don't show anything significant. ?????? They're calling OK State to get some suggestions for plan of action. So disappointed ?? |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Dan's old rope horse was allergic to alfalfa and would get heavie if he ate it. That yellow clover stuff in pastures is in the same family and Rooster couldn't handle grazing if that stuff was in the pasture. We used albuterol (same stuff people take..vet wrote out a prescription and I got it filled at Wal Mart) and we'd top dress his hay with Tumeric. The albuterol would take the heaves away in just a few minutes. I think it was less than 20 bucks for something like 100 little pills.
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| Is Albuterol different that Ventipulmin? I've had her on Ven. with no change. Used it in Equi-Resp and orally for 2 weeks. :( I bought some alfalfa pellets to see if that would help rather than alfalfa hay. She's on pasture for the most part, bermuda. Still waiting on i an actual diagnosis. Apparently no one is in a hurry about figuring this out, except me. :(
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| hbrandranch - 2017-10-08 5:26 PM
Is Albuterol different that Ventipulmin? I've had her on Ven. with no change. Used it in Equi-Resp and orally for 2 weeks. :( I bought some alfalfa pellets to see if that would help rather than alfalfa hay. She's on pasture for the most part, bermuda. Still waiting on i an actual diagnosis. Apparently no one is in a hurry about figuring this out, except me. :(
both are bronchial dilators but albuterol is given by an inhaler or in a nebulizer and dosed right to the lungs. Ventipulmin is oral obviously. A lot of horses get worked up after Ventipulmin due to a side effect. But along with a bronchial dilator your also need a steroid to calm the inflammation. They work together if your horse has IAD or COPD. |
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