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| Thoughts on feeding an ulcer preventative? I've heard of DAC Cool-Gut, Ulcer Guard, Aloe Vera Juice..
Vet said maybe start on Aloe Vera Juice. She doesn't believe he has ulcers, but thought it may be beneficial. His ForeFront Forebasics supplement is pretty much probiotics/colostrum, but I don't know if those ingredients have anything to do with preventing ulcers.
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| The probiotics in the Forefront will help. Your cheapest route is aloe vera juice. You can get a gallon if it for $8 at Wal-Mart. So you might start there.
I don't have any experience with DAC products and Ulcergard is expensive when used regularly. I have had good luck with GastroPlex by MVP. You can DM me if you'd like more info. |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | I use the DAC cool gut and my guy thats on it has been on it for about 7 months now and he loves it. I saw a change in him in the first 2 weeks i started him on it. a 5lb bucket last him almost 3 months. So, i even it out to be spending $10 a month on it. You cant get much cheaper than that. I used to feed the AV juice but we went through it so quckly and i couldnt find them in anything bigger than a 1 gallon jug and it was more hassle than worth it. I just recently started my other guy on the Purina Outlast for ulcers and so far so good. Hes a extremly picky eater and wouldnt touch the cool gut. If i like the results from the outlast ill prob just end up putting them both on it just to save room and have them on the same thing. I do love the cool gut tho! wish my picky one would eat it! lol |
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Location: Go Sooners!! | I had my horse scoped so I know for sure he had them. The only thing that works on him is giving him the omeprazine/ranatine powder that I give a day before competition and day of. It's the only thing that works for him. I've tried oe, MVP and so on paste?? |
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Location: North Dakota | I like uckele G.U.T. I've found that many of the preventatives have calcium carbonate which is basically an antacid. Like a tums for a horse-which for me isn't "preventing" its more of a band aid. I'm only using the GUT on a horse that has had ulcers in the past, was treated with omeprazole. I would think if you started one on GUT before they have issues, it sure would help. Though I've read a lot about the forefront and am wondering if you shouldn't visit with them about your concerns. Why add more if it's not necessary?? |
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| CUROST Stomach is simply amazing for ulcer prevent. It runs 75.00 a month but SO WORTH IT. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | THE GI Ulcer Prevent. Very cost effective. $80 for 80 scoops which lasts roughly 2 1/2 months. Its on sale for even less for Oct. |
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And get on a trial and try it for yourself. Watch the videos. Had a friend with a very very expensive barrel horse try it after she had treated her ulcer prone horse with a full round of gastroguard for ulcers. Then put him on Outlast. She’s had him on it for 120-150 days now, and has had zero recurrence. |
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| ZESTERRA!!!!! by Pro Earth Animal Health - clinically proven to heal ulcers, I use it to also prevent any issues and keep my horses healthy.
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Location: guthrie | Any new horse I get I put on THE Gastroplus for a minimum of 30 days. Then my horses are on THE Daily Edge Muscle Mass with bleeder and ulcer prevent added. Works great for my program. They also get Forco daily. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-10-20 9:43 AM
I use the DAC cool gut and my guy thats on it has been on it for about 7 months now and he loves it. I saw a change in him in the first 2 weeks i started him on it. a 5lb bucket last him almost 3 months. So, i even it out to be spending $10 a month on it. You cant get much cheaper than that. I used to feed the AV juice but we went through it so quckly and i couldnt find them in anything bigger than a 1 gallon jug and it was more hassle than worth it. I just recently started my other guy on the Purina Outlast for ulcers and so far so good. Hes a extremly picky eater and wouldnt touch the cool gut. If i like the results from the outlast ill prob just end up putting them both on it just to save room and have them on the same thing. I do love the cool gut tho! wish my picky one would eat it! lol
How do you make the 5 lb bucket last 3 months? It's only a 30 day supply. I bought the 20 lb that's 100 day supply. |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | TheDutchMan01 - 2017-10-22 10:24 PM Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-10-20 9:43 AM I use the DAC cool gut and my guy thats on it has been on it for about 7 months now and he loves it. I saw a change in him in the first 2 weeks i started him on it. a 5lb bucket last him almost 3 months. So, i even it out to be spending $10 a month on it. You cant get much cheaper than that. I used to feed the AV juice but we went through it so quckly and i couldnt find them in anything bigger than a 1 gallon jug and it was more hassle than worth it. I just recently started my other guy on the Purina Outlast for ulcers and so far so good. Hes a extremly picky eater and wouldnt touch the cool gut. If i like the results from the outlast ill prob just end up putting them both on it just to save room and have them on the same thing. I do love the cool gut tho! wish my picky one would eat it! lol How do you make the 5 lb bucket last 3 months? It's only a 30 day supply. I bought the 20 lb that's 100 day supply.
He only gets 1 scoop a day, I just know i started it July 9th (when i first started it) and it lasted me almost untill sept 9th. So, right under 60 days. The bucket hes on now i started right when the last ran on and hes still on it with almost half a bucket left. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-10-23 8:09 AM
TheDutchMan01 - 2017-10-22 10:24 PM Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-10-20 9:43 AM I use the DAC cool gut and my guy thats on it has been on it for about 7 months now and he loves it. I saw a change in him in the first 2 weeks i started him on it. a 5lb bucket last him almost 3 months. So, i even it out to be spending $10 a month on it. You cant get much cheaper than that. I used to feed the AV juice but we went through it so quckly and i couldnt find them in anything bigger than a 1 gallon jug and it was more hassle than worth it. I just recently started my other guy on the Purina Outlast for ulcers and so far so good. Hes a extremly picky eater and wouldnt touch the cool gut. If i like the results from the outlast ill prob just end up putting them both on it just to save room and have them on the same thing. I do love the cool gut tho! wish my picky one would eat it! lol How do you make the 5 lb bucket last 3 months? It's only a 30 day supply. I bought the 20 lb that's 100 day supply.
Your supposed to feed 3 scoops. Not sure if you knew that or not but if it's working that's good! |
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Location: Illinois | MVP Gastro-Plex is the only one that's worked for mine, and I've tried all of the ones listed above plus some others. Each horse is different, took me 5 years to find one that worked after giving each remedy a few months to judge. My advice would be to scope and make sure its ulcers and then go from there trying things. Omeprazole is the only thing proven to treat ulcers, but it often also causes them to flare up again right after. Mine would always get them again within a few days after a 30 day treatment and he would never even leave his pasture. What most vets won't tell you is that once you buffer their stomach like that their system goes into overdrive and once the buffer is removed, the extra production throws off the PH again, causing ulcers. So my treatment was causing a new flareup once it was stopped. I was doing a minimum of three 30 day treatments yearly, even did 6 one year. Scoped at the end and was clear, scoped 3-5 days after the 30 days were over and he'd be full, all the way up into his larynx even. Worst case 2 vets had ever seen and each 30 day treatment was $300, plus $200 to scope. I did a 30 day last fall and started the Gastro-Plex once someone told me about the omeprazole "backfire" and haven't treated since and he's scoped clear. I've talked about my gate issues in other posts & knock on wood we've gone in the gate no problem since. Again I will stress, each horse is different and all the products stated above have worked for some, not for others. So I'd suggest picking your top choice and trying, give a couple months to judge. if it doesn't work, move on to the next. |
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Location: South Dakota | Zesterra, and also Perfect Products GastroEase EQ. |
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Location: Comanche, TX | InsideTract is a great gut health supplement. |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | TheDutchMan01 - 2017-10-23 1:26 PM Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-10-23 8:09 AM TheDutchMan01 - 2017-10-22 10:24 PM Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-10-20 9:43 AM I use the DAC cool gut and my guy thats on it has been on it for about 7 months now and he loves it. I saw a change in him in the first 2 weeks i started him on it. a 5lb bucket last him almost 3 months. So, i even it out to be spending $10 a month on it. You cant get much cheaper than that. I used to feed the AV juice but we went through it so quckly and i couldnt find them in anything bigger than a 1 gallon jug and it was more hassle than worth it. I just recently started my other guy on the Purina Outlast for ulcers and so far so good. Hes a extremly picky eater and wouldnt touch the cool gut. If i like the results from the outlast ill prob just end up putting them both on it just to save room and have them on the same thing. I do love the cool gut tho! wish my picky one would eat it! lol How do you make the 5 lb bucket last 3 months? It's only a 30 day supply. I bought the 20 lb that's 100 day supply. Your supposed to feed 3 scoops. Not sure if you knew that or not but if it's working that's good!
Yea, i knew that. He was on the loading dose at first for about 2 weeks and then i went down to one scoop a day, had him scoped and his ulcers were gone so thats what hes been on. If he shows signs ill up the dose, but he hasnt since hes been on it. THank you though (: |
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| Cool Gut by Dac. It’s very affordable and works on fore and hind gut ulcers. |
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