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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-11-01 1:46 PM
Subject: Treeless saddle pad question



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I'll be getting a new treeless saddle next week and the best saddle pad I have to ride with it is a 5 Star pad. Now I've heard from a few different people saying that I'll be fine with mine and others saying I NEED to use 5 Stars treeless saddle pad, so I'm a little confused on what I should do. Help??

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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2017-11-01 2:19 PM
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What brand is yours?

I love the Saddleright's with a treeless but sure have ridden one with many different saddle pads.

 
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cecollins0811
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Posted 2017-11-01 6:23 PM
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canturner
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Posted 2017-11-02 5:33 AM
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 I've used my regular 5 Star with my treeless saddle for the last 2 years and haven't noticed any problems with this combination. 
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RockinGR
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Posted 2017-11-02 10:55 AM
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Your pad should depend on two things...how balanced you ride, and what your horse prefers. I always tried to start with a CSI pad under my Bobs. Worked perfect on one...another one HATES CSI pads. I'm a small, very balanced rider, and what ended up working for him was a Classic Equine ESP. Turns out, he likes the feel (as in, I could feel him breathe), and it didn't make him sore. It worked for him, but I wouldn't start there by any means. I've heard great things about 5 star and Saddlerights with treeless, but I never used them.
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2017-11-02 11:08 AM
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It depends on what your saddle pad measures.  Some pads work because they are longer side to side, usually 32 inches.   Some don't because the rigging goes down past the saddle. 
Quite a few of the treeless saddle pads have a drop rigging area that accomodates for this.  The other thing the treeless pads do is they have a spine opening to accommodate for no spine clearance from the saddle. 
I've ridden in a JBN treeless for, I think this is my 6th year, and I have a regular 30L x 32W 5star and I've had no problems with soreness or anything, Minus having to cut the wither connector because my horse has huge withers.  
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ccarpe18
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2017-11-02 1:52 PM
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I've bad my bob for about a couple months now. It's a round skirt. I've been using a regular 5 star pad and have not had any problems with it yet. My horse works as good as ever. 

I think it will really just depend on your horse. 
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-11-02 2:20 PM
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The thing I Like about the 5 star treeless pad is it has the whole back cut out so there is no spine pressure. I LOVE saddlerights BUT for a treeless not so much. The thought of the impact protection yes But unlike a treed saddle, where the seam for the two halfs of the pad is sewn together that runs down the spine, it fits into the channel of the tree. So there is no pressue placed and there is relief over the spine. Under a treeless that seam that sticks up is right over the spine. To me that will cause problems especially since you are sitting right over it and drilling a lump right into their back. That is the last thing you want. I would opt for something that sits flat over the spine or has a spine opening like the 5 star pad. 
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express52
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2017-11-02 4:22 PM
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I haven't had any luck in getting reply on the Matrix saddle pad. Has anyone tried one of these with a treeless saddle? I'm talking about the Matrix Extreme Pro Western or Barrel saddle pad. Thanks
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2017-11-02 4:38 PM
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cecollins0811 - 2017-11-01 1:46 PM I'll be getting a new treeless saddle next week and the best saddle pad I have to ride with it is a ? 5 Star pad. Now I've heard from a few different people saying that I'll be fine with mine and others saying I NEED to use 5 Stars treeless saddle pad, so I'm a little confused on what I should do. Help??

No. You do not need a 5 Star. Felt pads don't absorb shock and don't wick moisture. I have a treeless saddle and use a Toklat Matrix with additional thinline shims. It works perfect for us. Jen X Equine and CSI are other good options. You want something that will absorb shock and take pressure off the spine. 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2017-11-02 4:40 PM
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express52 - 2017-11-02 4:22 PM I haven't had any luck in getting reply on the Matrix saddle pad. Has anyone tried one of these with a treeless saddle? I'm talking about the Matrix Extreme Pro Western or Barrel saddle pad. Thanks

That's what I use. Love it. Be warned though--the barrel pad is really small so if you have anything larger than a 14-14.5" saddle it will be way too small. 
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Meep.Meep
Reg. Jun 2017
Posted 2017-11-02 4:41 PM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2017-11-02 4:38 PM

cecollins0811 - 2017-11-01 1:46 PM I'll be getting a new treeless saddle next week and the best saddle pad I have to ride with it is a ? 5 Star pad. Now I've heard from a few different people saying that I'll be fine with mine and others saying I NEED to use 5 Stars treeless saddle pad, so I'm a little confused on what I should do. Help??

No. You do not need a 5 Star. Felt pads don't absorb shock and don't wick moisture. I have a treeless saddle and use a Toklat Matrix with additional thinline shims. It works perfect for us. Jen X Equine and CSI are other good options. You want something that will absorb shock and take pressure off the spine. 

I've ridden Sports Saddles for well over a decade and all I have ever used is a 3/4" wool felt pad. NEVER had a sore back.
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express52
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2017-11-02 5:22 PM
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express52 - 2017-11-02 4:22 PM I haven't had any luck in getting reply on the Matrix saddle pad. Has anyone tried one of these with a treeless saddle? I'm talking about the Matrix Extreme Pro Western or Barrel saddle pad. Thanks

That's what I use. Love it. Be warned though--the barrel pad is really small so if you have anything larger than a 14-14.5" saddle it will be way too small. 

Thanks for the information ! My Jackie is a 14.5 and is 24".

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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-11-03 7:53 AM
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ETA I took out the "?" From my first sentence. I have no idea why it was there. I'm saying I do own and use a 5 star, just curious if I should buy the treeless saddle pad or not.

I'll use mine for a while, see how it goes and if it needs to be changed I'll probably go with a treeless 5 Star pad or I'll check in CSI pads.
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