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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | Ok, so my freaking idiot of a neighbor decided to spray our fenceline with round up.... It is the pasture I have my pregnant mare on.... so not happy at all!
His remark only made me more angry.... "ohhh but I only spray on my side...." yea sure buddy, like the fence will hold the stuff on your side.....
I moved her from that pasture to another one, but the one she was in is the one she always stays in during the winter. Has a round bale and good run in barn...
Soooo, how long till I can put her back safely in her winter one?? I have tried to find any info on the website, but it only really speaks of kids and pets.... Which don't eat grass most of the time...
Grrr... Gotta love ignorant neighbors.....
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I don't even take mine out when we spray. | |
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| According to Rutgers University and the NJ Agricultural Experiment Station, here is what they have to say:
Roundup (all animals): 14 day restriction if Roundup is used as a spot treatment. 56 day restriction if the entire pasture is treated for renovation.
Here's the link: http://www.njhorsecouncil.com/documents/Herbicides.pdf
Here is what Roundup has to say:
Proper translocation prior to animal re-entry is imperative to effective weed control. To ensure proper weed control and forage removal, Monsanto recommends grazing not resume for 3 to 5 days after spraying.
•Grazing is safe for the animals as soon as the herbicide has dried. However, proper translocation must occur before grazing is allowed to ensure proper weed control.
•When a Re-entry Interval is not listed on a chemical label, it is recommended to wait until the chemical has dried, however, assume annual weeds require a minimum of 24 hours of good weather conditions for proper translocation.
•For perennial weed and forage control, wait a minimum of 72 hours for proper translocation of the chemical through the target plants before allowing grazing.
Allowing animals to graze earlier may result in reduced control.
Here's their link: http://www.roundup.ca/en/faq
We had a discussion about that this summer actually, herbicides and pesticides both. Personally, especially since she is a pregnant mare, I would wait longer to put her back on the pasture (if you have the means to do so). | |
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Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | madredepeanut - 2017-11-17 9:11 AM According to Rutgers University and the NJ Agricultural Experiment Station, here is what they have to say: Roundup (all animals ): 14 day restriction if Roundup is used as a spot treatment. 56 day restriction if the entire pasture is treated for renovation. Here's the link: http://www.njhorsecouncil.com/documents/Herbicides.pdf Here is what Roundup has to say: Proper translocation prior to animal re-entry is imperative to effective weed control. To ensure proper weed control and forage removal, Monsanto recommends grazing not resume for 3 to 5 days after spraying. •Grazing is safe for the animals as soon as the herbicide has dried. However, proper translocation must occur before grazing is allowed to ensure proper weed control. •When a Re-entry Interval is not listed on a chemical label, it is recommended to wait until the chemical has dried, however, assume annual weeds require a minimum of 24 hours of good weather conditions for proper translocation. •For perennial weed and forage control, wait a minimum of 72 hours for proper translocation of the chemical through the target plants before allowing grazing. Allowing animals to graze earlier may result in reduced control. Here's their link: http://www.roundup.ca/en/faq We had a discussion about that this summer actually, herbicides and pesticides both. Personally, especially since she is a pregnant mare, I would wait longer to put her back on the pasture (if you have the means to do so ).
Thank you! 
Looks like she will be living in the other pasture for a while longer.
Was thinking about putting up a temporary hotfence inside the one we already have so she can't get to the actual fenceline. But will have to talk to the hubster about that. The only reason I want her in this one is because her buddies are in the pasture right next to it, now she is on the other side of the house. But our other neighbor has 2 horses along side that one, so she should be fine as long as she can see them
I know I might seem a bit OCD about things, but I prefer to keep all risks to a minimum when it comes to my animals.  | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | 3canstorun - 2017-11-17 10:10 AM I don't even take mine out when we spray.
yep
few years ago, we fed them round up just build up their ammunity, I'm not sure it worked or not so we stopped doing it.
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Duct Tape Bikini Girl
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| If it makes you feel any better, Round Up isn't what it used to be. Not long ago, after claims it caused cancer, I believe they must have changed it up. I buy the absolute strongest Round Up available, and it doesn't even discourage, much less kill what I spray it on. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Roundup is less toxic than table salt,doesn’t bioaccumulate in animals, and is nothing to worry about even with a pregnant mare. The long grazing restrictions mentioned have to do with weed control and dairy herds, not animal safety. We don’t remove ours from the pasture when we spray fence lines. When the yard is sprayed in the spring, we keep the dogs off until it dries. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | luckyjo - 2017-11-17 11:48 AM
If it makes you feel any better, Round Up isn't what it used to be. Not long ago, after claims it caused cancer, I believe they must have changed it up. I buy the absolute strongest Round Up available, and it doesn't even discourage, much less kill what I spray it on.
Roundup is a trade name that belongs to Monsanto and there are different formulations being sold under that name. Regular roundup is still glyphosate, as it has always been. The cancer claims are BS btw. There isn’t any real evidence it causes cancer. | |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2017-11-17 12:28 PM
 Roundup is less toxic than table salt,doesn’t bioaccumulate in animals, and is nothing to worry about even with a pregnant mare.  The long grazing restrictions mentioned have to do with weed control and dairy herds, not animal safety.  We don’t remove ours from the pasture when we spray fence lines. When the yard is sprayed in the spring, we keep the dogs off until it dries.Â
The Rutgers advisory specifically touches on horse health, as follows:
"Note that for non-lactating animals (horses) there
are no grazing restrictions for any of the herbicides
with the exception of Roundup. However, it
may be advisable to remove horses for 1 to 3 days
from a pasture treated with herbicides. Grazing
restrictions for lactating dairy are also provided
and may be used as a guide for the maximum level
of horse safety."
Why do you keep your dogs off of it until it dries if it's nothing to worry about? I guess personally, I would rather not take my chances with a valuable pregnant mare, if I had the capability to move her, I would. | |
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| I had to kill grass in a pen and my vet said 3 days. When I am spraying fence lines I don’t remove them unless they are in one of small 10 acre traps, they always want to graze thru the fence, I give it just one day to dry good. | |
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Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | Thank you all for your input.
The pastures we have are about 1 acre, and they have round bales to supplement, so that is why I was worried about her.
As I mentioned before we have other pastures which we normally rotate them on, so she is back in her other one.
Like someone said, I just don't want to take a chance with my animals, and prefer to be over cautious. But it is good to know that I am probably overthinking things.
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Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | madredepeanut - 2017-11-17 3:11 PM Three 4 Luck - 2017-11-17 12:28 PM Roundup is less toxic than table salt,doesn’t bioaccumulate in animals, and is nothing to worry about even with a pregnant mare. The long grazing restrictions mentioned have to do with weed control and dairy herds, not animal safety. We don’t remove ours from the pasture when we spray fence lines. When the yard is sprayed in the spring, we keep the dogs off until it dries. The Rutgers advisory specifically touches on horse health, as follows: "Note that for non-lactating animals (horses ) there are no grazing restrictions for any of the herbicides with the exception of Roundup. However, it may be advisable to remove horses for 1 to 3 days from a pasture treated with herbicides. Grazing restrictions for lactating dairy are also provided and may be used as a guide for the maximum level of horse safety." Why do you keep your dogs off of it until it dries if it's nothing to worry about? I guess personally, I would rather not take my chances with a valuable pregnant mare, if I had the capability to move her, I would.
Because the whole yard is covered when we use Roundup on it (early season, pre-emerge on bermuda). When I'm spraying fence rows, the horses won't come into contact with it. | |
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