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Location: Where I am happiest | casualdust07 - 2018-01-21 4:08 PM
To answer a question, yes, AQHA has only recently required stallions to get a DNA test and 5 panel test for their foal crops to be registered. It's only been in effect maybe a couple years. So it could make sense if a stallion breeds a low volume of mares they may be out of the loop...but, it was pretty big news when the rule changed, and if they are standing to the public its their responsibility to know the rules and apply to them if they want registered babies. It costs like $125 dollars maybe (haven't looked in a while) and some hair roots. Not a big deal at all. If they won't comply to something like that, move on!
The 5 panel for all breeding stallions has been required since 2015. So that's 2 or 3 years depending on the month it was enacted. DNA testing for all stallions breeding 4 or more mares per year since the 90's. When it was required for ALL stallions I'm not quite sure. So as sad as it is, I'm not holding ALOT of hope for that horses paper work to be done 2 or 3 years is plenty of time If it was actually going to be done or could be done. Other very sad part is this is not a real cheap backyard stallion. His fee is multiple times North of $1000. Multiple times! And he has at least 1 weanling on the ground that I know of and has a couple very high powered mares expecting foals this year. Very big time mares Sad the stallion connections are not disclosing this and taking people's money. I have no clue exactly how many mares are planning on breeding to him this year but I know its quite a few. |
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| Just interested. Could you pm me the name of the stallion? |
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Location: Where I am happiest | sorry. People will find out who he is if he's the stallion they choose and call AQHA hopefully. OR, if they don't do their due diligence and go to register their foal and find out they can't. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | streakysox - 2018-01-21 3:50 PM I call AQHA on a regular basis. Often it is about something pertaining to my horses. I am a member and expect their help. They have ALWAYS been super cooperative. Facts are facts and if someone wants to complain, let them. That being said, I think there might be a way to check for 5 panel tests on the AQHA website. Easier to call though--laughing. A reputable breeder would disclose this.
Funny but I noticed alot of stallions don't have it on their ad's if they are 5 panel tested or results... you have to ask.. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I also find it interesting how buried the requirement/information about 5 panel testing is on the AQHA site. I have a friend who is purchasing her first quarter horse. She is buying a 2 year old prospect. She sent me a picture of the filly and told me the blood lines. I asked if she had confirmed the results of 5 panel testing on the sire/dam and she didn't even know what that was. I sent her to the AQHA site and she didn't see anything. I had to dig up the page for her that talks about it. It's certainly not front and center on the non-member pages. She will become a member if she purchases this filly. But this info is not as out there for folks as I would hope.
I advised her to call AQHA to inquire about the testing results for the sire...but I doubt she will. Heck...I think I'm more curious than she is.
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Location: Kansas | I believe I saw an AQHA stallion that was a son of ASOF being advertised, saw a bunch of drama under the post about none of the resulting foals could be registered. Crappy stud owner right there |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid...
This thread is about one such stallion. I don't know why the OP has to play so coy. Either come out with it or STFU. |
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I'm 100% sure she is talking about El Shady Zorrero NOT the stud mentioned in the above post. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | TheOldGrayMare - 2018-01-24 7:43 PM I'm 100% sure she is talking about El Shady Zorrero NOT the stud mentioned in the above post.
Edited by wyoming barrel racer 2018-01-24 8:59 PM
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | TheOldGrayMare - 2018-01-24 6:43 PM
I'm 100% sure she is talking about El Shady Zorrero NOT the stud mentioned in the above post.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | OK here's the scoop. They have ordered the DNA and 5 panel kit. They haven't registered any foals since the 2013 crop per AQHA's website. I'm not going to speculate why. The rule that stallions had to be tested took full effect with the 2015 crop. Before that they could have registered babies because he certainly didn't breed 25/year at that time. There aren't any showing for 2014. He has had 30 registered foals in his life. There might be 154616516513 of them that aren't registered. Who knows. He's 28 years old this year. So ask the people who are selling his frozen semen here what the story is. Then go from there. |
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| I think the agent for him is our fellow BB Sharp. Maybe she will chime in. |
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Location: Desert Land | Whiteboy - 2018-01-25 10:30 AM I think the agent for him is our fellow BB Sharp. Maybe she will chime in.
I read her response on a Facebook post that they have ordered the 5 panel test and DNA kit but have not yet received it, but are working diligently to get things worked out.
She also said there are a bunch of his babies registered but it's under ABQM - Brailian AQHA basically. And ABQM does not have the 5 panel test requirements AQHA does. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Nobody is trying to be "coy". The whole purpose as stated numerous times is to call AQHA and verify with AQHA The status on the stallion of your choice. Know the 5 panel on your mare. There are numerous stallions with problems one way or another. Breeding horses is not cheap and is also time consuming. We invest a great deal of money, time waiting for that foal, and are emotionally invested in each one. It would be a shame to go through the time, money, hopes and dreams to have it all go south by either not being able to register that foal, or have a reflected foal of one of the 5 panel diseases. As evidenced above there are stallions out there that for one reason or another people end up not being able to register. Also, not all stallions disclose openly their 5 panel results and a majority of mares are not tested. I know someone who bred her untested mare to a GBED carrier and the resulting foal died a short time later. She was emotionally devastated. Turns out after testing her mare she to was a GBED carrier. |
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