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| Hey all! I'm new to this forum and just wanted to get some opinions! :D So back in late 2015 (right before the killpen prices skyrocketed) I picked up a little yearling that was advertised to have Doc o Lena lines. He's not registered so there's no way of knowing whether or not that's true, but for his price I figured if it's true then he was a bargain and if not then it didn't matter anyway. I was drawn to him because I like the cutting horses' builds and cattiness and hoped that if it was true then introducing him to cows would make my life so much easier if he already had it in his blood. Fast forward two years and some odd number of months and I've got a pretty nice looking 4 year old. Well, I think he's nice looking at least, but I'm probably more biased than the rest lol. My intention with him was to be a team penner, roper and barrel racer. I like to dabble in a little bit of everything, but would like to be a bit more competitive with this new guy. I just sent him off for 90 days of reined cow horse training so my pictures are a bit limited at the time, but what do you think of his build and conformation? He's about 14.2 hands right now. Do you think he stands a chance in the barrel arena?
On a side note: I was living in Wyoming at the time that I bought him and I had a older gentleman come up to me at a show and asking what my guy's pedigree was. When I told him I wasn't sure, but he was advertised as Doc o Lena he told me that he looked like a Doc o Lena horse, but also like a Peppy San Badger and had a nice build. Anyone have any insight on some tell tale Doc o Lena, Peppy San Badger or Mr San Peppy traits or characteristics that I should expect? Thanks!
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| Well yuck that picture is quite small and dark lol Here are some other pictures that are hopefully lighter and easier to see. He's 3 in these pictures.
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | I'd like to see a better pic of his front end, legs to be specific. But he looks good to me. |
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| "DO YOU THINK HE STANDS A CHANCE IN THE BARREL PEN?"
Do you stand a chance in the barrel pen? Its more the rider and trainer than the horse. IMO
If you cant keep him in top shape and if you cant run in the 1d then he has 0 chance. |
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| For the record, I like him.
Do your part and dont be lazy and he might just surprise you.
A local lady just entered her coming 4yo horse for the first time over the weekend and it clocked less than 3 tenths off with 200 horses running. I can guarantee if people on here seen pics of this horse they would not like her at all and tell a potential buyer to run. You just have to learn to get the most out of what you have.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Conformation wise I’m not crazy about him/her, doesn’t look like she will have much of a stride, and has a very short neck and straight shoulder, to me he could be short and choppy (some of them have proved me wrong). He has a nice chest though and I like his long forearm short cannon, his back legs look a little to far under him (not balanced in the hock) but could be picture and I’m not an expert. I do like his bone structure and croup, lower tail set can usually get up under themselves - but with all that being said sometimes the ugliest conformed horses have gone out and blown everyone away - you don’t know until you try! I’m running a very short necked, short backed compact mare right now and although she’s a challenge she has a HUGE heart and is super honest - and that makes it worth it!
This is the only mare I have running right now, she doesn’t have the best conformation either but I gave her a chance and she’s proving herself!!!! I call her my Mini Cooper
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| the first thing i noticed was the back end. Looks like this horse will very naturally get under him/herself. I do see the short/ choppy look too. However, I really think this horse will be able to collect and out-turn a lot of horses if rode properly and kept sound. Might need to keep an eye on hocks and stifles a little closer because it seems they will naturally carry more of a load than most horses. If the horse moves out good, you should be in pretty good shape. IMO looks like a rodeo horse. A do it all kind. |
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boon
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| I don't really have one good picture of his front end. Here's just a collection of pictures lol In these pictures he's 3 and we all know how much they change throughout their third year! Thanks for the responses! I guess I just worded my original post wrong. Not that I don't plan on working hard, but sometimes it helps that much more when your horse has the build for it as well as speed. I'm honestly asking because I'm looking through rose colored glasses when I look at him and just want outside opinions and thoughts on potential strengths and more importantly potential weaknesses that I should be aware of and could possibly face.
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| It could just be the pictures, but he seems a little narrow chested to me. Overall, he is built well and with some good exercising he could get super muscled up and fill out really well.
I like the way he is built, and I agree, he looks like an athletic, rodeo horse to me.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Here you go right side up 
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Location: Texas | The two things that stand out to me are that he's sickle hocked and straight in the shoulder. Some barrel racers like them a little sickle hocked but his looks a hair much. The shoulder angle seems to improve in some pictures and look worse in others, so camera angle may not be helping you too much.
Don't let his conformational weaknesses get to your head. If you like him and you are enjoying riding him, then carry on with what you're doing. Plenty of horses are successful despite less than ideal conformation. And plenty of super well made horses can't outrun a turtle so.. it's not everything. heart plays a big role. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | I read a critique from a Hall of Fame racehorse trainer once and what stood out in my mind the most was "from the top of the withers to the point of the shoulder to the elbow should be a perfect triangle." Have to admit you don't find many with this trait.
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 Hugs to You
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Everyone is going to have an opinion. We can all pick apart a horse. If you like the horse, have the time to put into it - then go for it. It will have a job. If it doesn't take you to the level of riding that you want or expect, get another one.
Good luck and have fun.
PS - most of the people on here take crappy pictures. Very few are professional that specifically do horses. JS - |
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