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| In the past I did use the SLH worm formula. I can’t really say if it worked or not because I didn’t do any kind of poop sample but horses ate it well enough. They looked good before and after so hard to tell. I just use paste wormer twice a year so that’s what I use now. There are some pretty strong ingredients in it like black walnut. My vet said that was a big no no. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If you do try this I would take poop samples in to vet to test and see what types of worms you horse has befor you start this natural dewormer and then 4 to six weeks later have poop tested again to see if its doing anything for your horses.
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| I've power packed wormy babies that were not took care of and then did the daily natural wormer on them for a month or so as well. Diatomaceous Earth is what i've used and sometimes I'll use it for a few weeks if the shine in ones coat is gone too. I'd never recommend that as an alternative to worming or a replacement. If you have one that is very wormy, poor coat, etc it is great to help get everything cleared out. |
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Location: Texas | Haven’t seen any success yet... the theory behind something being sharp enough to chop up a worm but somehow safe for the gentle mucosa of the GIT? I personally don’t buy it and haven’t seen the success in fecals I run. |
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| casualdust07 - 2018-03-06 11:36 AM Haven’t seen any success yet... the theory behind something being sharp enough to chop up a worm but somehow safe for the gentle mucosa of the GIT? I personally don’t buy it and haven’t seen the success in fecals I run.
I thought the theory behind natural wormers such as diatomaceous earth was that it dehydrated them? Are you talking about a different thing?
I am not natural person at all I power pack anything when i first get it and everyone in my care gets one once a year in feb then i rotate but tend to use quest a lot bc I'm a moxidextin fan.
I will say that Diatomaceous Earth will brighten the coat on one and def helps "dumpy" looking yearlings get ready for sales...its cheap too. I use it conjunction with chemical wormers tho. I would never use or recommend as an actual worming treatment, just something additional. |
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Location: LaBelle, Florida | I brought a 2 year old home that had been wormed homeopathic.
Looked in good flesh, shiny, etc.
Dewormed her with Strongid...next day found several in her poop.
So for SW Florida and year long warm climate I would say no on the all natural deworming.
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2018-03-06 3:15 PM
casualdust07 - 2018-03-06 11:36 AM Haven’t seen any success yet... the theory behind something being sharp enough to chop up a worm but somehow safe for the gentle mucosa of the GIT? I personally don’t buy it and haven’t seen the success in fecals I run.
I thought the theory behind natural wormers such as diatomaceous earth was that it dehydrated them? Are you talking about a different thing? I am not natural person at all I power pack anything when i first get it and everyone in my care gets one once a year in feb then i rotate but tend to use quest a lot bc I'm a moxidextin fan. I will say that Diatomaceous Earth will brighten the coat on one and def helps "dumpy" looking yearlings get ready for sales...its cheap too. I use it conjunction with chemical wormers tho. I would never use or recommend as an actual worming treatment, just something additional.Â
How would dehydration worm your horse?
DE is the biggest placebo wormer on the market. I agree with casualdust, not successful.
If you saw coat improvements in yearlings, honestly, it is probably due to an increased uptake of minerals rather than actually worming your horse. |
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Location: Texas | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-03-06 3:15 PM
casualdust07 - 2018-03-06 11:36 AM Haven’t seen any success yet... the theory behind something being sharp enough to chop up a worm but somehow safe for the gentle mucosa of the GIT? I personally don’t buy it and haven’t seen the success in fecals I run.
I thought the theory behind natural wormers such as diatomaceous earth was that it dehydrated them? Are you talking about a different thing? I am not natural person at all I power pack anything when i first get it and everyone in my care gets one once a year in feb then i rotate but tend to use quest a lot bc I'm a moxidextin fan. I will say that Diatomaceous Earth will brighten the coat on one and def helps "dumpy" looking yearlings get ready for sales...its cheap too. I use it conjunction with chemical wormers tho. I would never use or recommend as an actual worming treatment, just something additional.Â
Yes. The idea behind the diatomaceous earth is that it has sharp particles that cut the worms up. Some think that it dehydrates them. There's conflicting opinions on both sides whether they are cut up or dried up but at the end of the day...neither happens. So both theories are wrong. Outside the body if you cover ectoparasites with DE its possible they can dessicate, and DE seems to work when used outside...but there's too much fluid inside the GIT of a horse for any product like that to actually dehydrate a parasite.
https://equusmagazine.com/management/diatomaceous-earth-dewormer-158...
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| lindseylou2290 - 2018-03-07 9:52 AM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-03-06 3:15 PM
casualdust07 - 2018-03-06 11:36 AM Haven’t seen any success yet... the theory behind something being sharp enough to chop up a worm but somehow safe for the gentle mucosa of the GIT? I personally don’t buy it and haven’t seen the success in fecals I run.
I thought the theory behind natural wormers such as diatomaceous earth was that it dehydrated them? Are you talking about a different thing? I am not natural person at all I power pack anything when i first get it and everyone in my care gets one once a year in feb then i rotate but tend to use quest a lot bc I'm a moxidextin fan. I will say that Diatomaceous Earth will brighten the coat on one and def helps "dumpy" looking yearlings get ready for sales...its cheap too. I use it conjunction with chemical wormers tho. I would never use or recommend as an actual worming treatment, just something additional.Â
How would dehydration worm your horse?
DE is the biggest placebo wormer on the market. I agree with casualdust, not successful.
If you saw coat improvements in yearlings, honestly, it is probably due to an increased uptake of minerals rather than actually worming your horse.
These are sale prepped race yearlings getting the recommended feeding of purina ultium growth since being weaned and they've had minerals through fed and free choice with mama since day one.
doubt it's increased minerals.....it's actually not my program....we just send horses to be sale prepped and that is their protocol
I didn't disagree with her? Just a question. DE is cheap as all get out and you'll see big farms use it on already amazing looking yearlings.
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