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boon
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| I recently purchased a horse that's a bleeder. I was told to give him 5cc 3 hours out of Lasix before we run. Take away food and water then give electrolyte paste after, also keep out of sun. My questions are this:
My daughter does day rodeo's in Louisiana during summer months, Do I have to keep horse out the sun? How do we use this horse during summer months that he wont become dehydrated? She normally does Pole, barrels, arena race, and goat tying. These rodeo's last all day.
How long should I wait after I feed to give Lasix?
Should I give electrolytes all week before we race him?
Any help on this is greatly appreciated This is out first horse that bleeds. His bleeds are bad per previous owner |
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Location: Illinois | I personally don't pull my water that far out. Once I give them lasix, which I give mine about 1.5 hours before, I take their free choice water but come back to them and let them have a few swigs. I never let mine drink more than about an inch of the bucket each time. Usually do that twice from time i give lasix to time I saddle & get on. If its a super hot day I'll let him have an extra swig. I have a black horse, its hot he gets hot just existing in the sun. I asked both my vets and they agreed about not fully pulling water. Also if you have an awning on the trailer you can always tie them under it on a hot day. I give electrolytes after I run, not before. Each horse is different with lasix, you could always ask your vets opinion. Mine is a light/average bleeder and runs on 6cc when he's not in full condition and 4 when he's in good condition. You could try a PHT sheet for when he's standing tied in the sun, mine is always cool under the sheet while others are sweaty |
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 Namesless in BHW
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | I've never heard if keeping out of sun. We've had race horses and that's nearly impossible if you are racing. And yes, we pull water and hay when Lasix is given. Electrolytes after cooled and and watered down. |
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 Did I miss the party?
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| You have to keep the lasix out of the sun, but never heard of keeping the horse out of the sun  |
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 Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | barrelracinbroke - 2018-03-26 11:55 PM
You have to keep the lasix out of the sun, but never heard of keeping the horse out of the sun
I keep my horse out of the sun during the summer bc it's HOT, and I don't want to stand in the sun sweating... |
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| Lasix is gonna draw one up and you need to pull their water too so i'm sure keeping them outta the sun means don't put them in the hot sun because you just gave them a diuretic. It's just good advice bc most ppl don't think about the sun making them hot and sweat when you just gave them something that is zapping the electrolytes outta them anyway.
Get him in shape the best you possibly can it is your best protection against a bleed and 5cc is a good bit for a playday horse so make sure you've got him in shape.
For all day things make sure your giving him enough of a drink to wet his mouth.
I'd keep him on oral electrolytes this summer. I would use some ace or guanzabenz as much as possible to lower heart rate and see if I couldn't get by with using it for some events early in the day and then mid day give lasixs.
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  Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Has he been vetted for his bleeding? If not, find a really really good vet and have him thoroughly examined and treated. That can include things like a trach wash and BAL.
I personally don't think it's ever a good idea to blindly treat bleeders and keep continuing on with them. Every horse is different. If you can get one vetted thoroughly, you may be able to work with your vet to come up with the absolute best treatment and care plan for the horse.
Just my thoughts. |
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boon
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| He has been Scoped by a vet. He has yet to bleed from his nose. I am in contact with a vet. I just wanted others opinion. My questions arose when the person I bought him from came up to me telling me I was doing everything wrong. Sad thing is that day I didn't get him the Lasix. We were only taking it easy on him thur the patterns, so my daughter could get a better feel for him. |
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| I give my bleeder 7cc about 1 hr and 45 minutes out. It was a trial and error process to figure out his timeline. My vet told me to not completely pull water and let my horse have a few sips. Depending on where we are in our state, it can be either muggy or dry so he suggested allowing some water. I keep my horse out of the sun just because it sounds miserable to be standing there with the sun beating on you and having to pee every 5 minutes :) |
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