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Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??

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wishingforsun
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2018-03-28 3:51 PM
Subject: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??




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Would this EPM test result concern you if you were looking to purchase this horse?  

Results:


1:500 TITER ON SERUM
Positive, specific antibodies were detected. This result indicates exposure to S. neurona, a causative agent of equine protozoal myelitis (EPM).  It does not confirm the clinical disease. Serum titers range from <1:250 (negative) to >1:4000 (high).


We are in the Pacific Northwest and a friend is looking at this horse (who is in AR) - the vet doing the pre-purchase exam is not concerned and saying that a result like that is very common in their area but any positive result is giving her pause, especially with the cross-country move.  She REALLY likes this horse and he seems like a great fit for her so she is just looking for experiences/insight and whether or not this result should be a deal-breaker. Neither of us have had any reason to test for EPM so this is the first test results that we have seen.
He passed his physical neuro exam as well as the rest of his pre-purchase exam with flying colors.
Thanks in advance!


 
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2018-03-28 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??





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cowgalsissy
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2018-03-28 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??



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wishingforsun - 2018-03-28 3:51 PM Would this EPM test result concern you if you were looking to purchase this horse?  

Results:


1:500 TITER ON SERUM
Positive, specific antibodies were detected. This result indicates exposure to S. neurona, a causative agent of equine protozoal myelitis (EPM).  It does not confirm the clinical disease. Serum titers range from <1:250 (negative) to >1:4000 (high).


We are in the Pacific Northwest and a friend is looking at this horse (who is in AR) - the vet doing the pre-purchase exam is not concerned and saying that a result like that is very common in their area but any positive result is giving her pause, especially with the cross-country move.  She REALLY likes this horse and he seems like a great fit for her so she is just looking for experiences/insight and whether or not this result should be a deal-breaker. Neither of us have had any reason to test for EPM so this is the first test results that we have seen.
He passed his physical neuro exam as well as the rest of his pre-purchase exam with flying colors.
Thanks in advance!


 
I'd call another well known vet with the results and ask their opinion.  

Edited by cowgalsissy 2018-03-28 4:04 PM
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-03-28 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??


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all horses have epm different vets have different theories etc blah blah

you should be treating for it at least yearly

As soon as one loses muscle and looks crappy i'll treat

my opinion and its not always popular but i wouldn't pass up my dream horse on that test result nor would i gamble the worht of my horse on $200-$1k worth of meds
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epoh
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-03-28 4:25 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??



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I'd buy the horse and ask the owner to reduce the price. I knowingly bought one with epm. The owners didn't know but I picked up on some things. I said if his results come back with epm, I want him. If it's clean I will pass. They took 1500 off his price for treatment. I'm tripling my money on the horse now just for a simple treat and test.
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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2018-03-28 7:26 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??


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No, not at all. It’s just about a guarantee that a horse in this Midwest strip of states (KS, TX, MO, AR, Ok)has been exposed. If it was me I would put him on a 30 day treatment of Protazil, just to be on the safe side. He’ll be stressed with a long trip, new surroundings, etc . I’d also make sure he was on a good digestive aid like Forco.
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RocketPilot
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2018-03-28 10:27 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??



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My son was told by a vet friend that any horse that had been in Texas more than 6 months would test positive for some level of EPM.  Just think of the number of horses sold daily that that would include.  Unless the horse is showing visible signs of EPM, I agree that I would buy, treat and if you can get some knocked off of the purchase price, that would be a plus.  Would not keep me from buying. 
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2018-03-29 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??



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No. The test is completely inaccurate.
I had one nearly die on me of EPM, and he never one time registered a single titer response.

If you’re concerned, buy him a bucket of Protazil or some kind of treatment.
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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2018-03-29 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??


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classicpotatochip - 2018-03-29 7:37 AM

No. The test is completely inaccurate.
I had one nearly die on me of EPM, and he never one time registered a single titer response.

If you’re concerned, buy him a bucket of Protazil or some kind of treatment.

I’m glad you brought this up. There have been false negatives and false positives with the test, for sure. Not to mention, the test only tests for two types of Protozoa when there’s are many that can cause EPM symptoms.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-03-29 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: Pre-Purchase EPM Test Results ??



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 My question is Why did they feel they needed to test for EPM? Is this horse having any issues?
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