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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Is 15% considered high? | |
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 Cute Little Imp
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     Location: N Texas | No, anything over about 23% is high. 15% is good :) | |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2018-04-23 10:18 AM Is 15% considered high? I have one I feed that is 9.3% Triple Crown Lite and the other two get a 16% NSC leavel feed that is a Bluebonnet pelleted. So not high at all..
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | This is Bluebonnet. I have a guy that is local trying to become a dealer. So I am trying out the Senior and Omega. I don't feed a lot of bagged feed but boy the ingredients and smell is night and day better than any Purina/Nutrena that I can get around here. Senior I think was 14% and Omega is 15% | |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2018-04-23 10:31 AM This is Bluebonnet. I have a guy that is local trying to become a dealer. So I am trying out the Senior and Omega. I don't feed a lot of bagged feed but boy the ingredients and smell is night and day better than any Purina/Nutrena that I can get around here. Senior I think was 14% and Omega is 15%
I feed the bluebonnet Equilene Pelleted that is a 16% and the Triple Crown Lite that is 9.3% to my insulin resistance gelding and my mini. The triple Crown is milled by Bluebonnet now so I feed it also. I have been feeding Bluebonnet feed for over 25 years and have never had a problem I love this feed.. Go to their web site and you can see what NSC% levels all their feed has..  | |
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 Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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         Location: LouLouVille, OK | They gave me this when I was looking, it's a nice comparison on the different feeds... and not just nsc, they have those listed on their site
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      Location: Willows, CA | Understanding NSC levels in horse feed can be a little confusing. The percentage of NSC in a feed is not as important as how much NSC is contributed to the diet based on how much of a certain feed is fed. A 10% NSC feed provides 54 grams of NSC per pound fed. If you were to feed five pounds of it per day, that would mean that 270 grams of NSC is delivered into the digestive system from feeding that product. If you feed a 25% NSC feed (contributes 113 grams per pound fed), but only feed two pounds per day, the total NSC contributed to the diet would be 227 grams. So, in that case, the higher NSC feed, fed at a lower rate, would contribute less NSC to the diet than the super low NSC feed would if fed at a higher rate. Since a lot of super low NSC feeds are also super low in digestible energy, there is a temptation to feed them at a higher rate. Some horse owners fall into the trap of feeling that a low NSC feed is safe to be fed at any feeding level. I am certainly not saying that low NSC feeds are bad. I believe in keeping the NSC amount realistic to the horses needs and ability to digest properly. I am only saying that you as a horse owner need to understand how the entire diet works. Just remember, it is the contribution to the diet, not the percentage number that is important. | |
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 Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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         Location: LouLouVille, OK | winwillows - 2018-04-23 4:07 PM Understanding NSC levels in horse feed can be a little confusing. The percentage of NSC in a feed is not as important as how much NSC is contributed to the diet based on how much of a certain feed is fed. A 10% NSC feed provides 54 grams of NSC per pound fed. If you were to feed five pounds of it per day, that would mean that 270 grams of NSC is delivered into the digestive system from feeding that product. If you feed a 25% NSC feed (contributes 113 grams per pound fed), but only feed two pounds per day, the total NSC contributed to the diet would be 227 grams. So, in that case, the higher NSC feed, fed at a lower rate, would contribute less NSC to the diet than the super low NSC feed would if fed at a higher rate. Since a lot of super low NSC feeds are also super low in digestible energy, there is a temptation to feed them at a higher rate. Some horse owners fall into the trap of feeling that a low NSC feed is safe to be fed at any feeding level. I am certainly not saying that low NSC feeds are bad. I believe in keeping the NSC amount realistic to the horses needs and ability to digest properly. I am only saying that you as a horse owner need to understand how the entire diet works. Just remember, it is the contribution to the diet, not the percentage number that is important.
How did you figure that out? that is interesting.... | |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | winwillows - 2018-04-23 3:07 PM Understanding NSC levels in horse feed can be a little confusing. The percentage of NSC in a feed is not as important as how much NSC is contributed to the diet based on how much of a certain feed is fed. A 10% NSC feed provides 54 grams of NSC per pound fed. If you were to feed five pounds of it per day, that would mean that 270 grams of NSC is delivered into the digestive system from feeding that product. If you feed a 25% NSC feed (contributes 113 grams per pound fed), but only feed two pounds per day, the total NSC contributed to the diet would be 227 grams. So, in that case, the higher NSC feed, fed at a lower rate, would contribute less NSC to the diet than the super low NSC feed would if fed at a higher rate. Since a lot of super low NSC feeds are also super low in digestible energy, there is a temptation to feed them at a higher rate. Some horse owners fall into the trap of feeling that a low NSC feed is safe to be fed at any feeding level. I am certainly not saying that low NSC feeds are bad. I believe in keeping the NSC amount realistic to the horses needs and ability to digest properly. I am only saying that you as a horse owner need to understand how the entire diet works. Just remember, it is the contribution to the diet, not the percentage number that is important.
makes sense. I am feeding well below the rate. For my senior pony I just want something to go along with his soaked mush. For the other horse 1/2#, it is just a snack more or less. | |
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      Location: Arkansas | wyoming barrel racer - 2018-05-01 7:15 PM
winwillows - 2018-04-23 3:07 PM Understanding NSC levels in horse feed can be a little confusing. The percentage of NSC in a feed is not as important as how much NSC is contributed to the diet based on how much of a certain feed is fed. A 10% NSC feed provides 54 grams of NSC per pound fed. If you were to feed five pounds of it per day, that would mean that 270 grams of NSC is delivered into the digestive system from feeding that product. If you feed a 25% NSC feed (contributes 113 grams per pound fed), but only feed two pounds per day, the total NSC contributed to the diet would be 227 grams. So, in that case, the higher NSC feed, fed at a lower rate, would contribute less NSC to the diet than the super low NSC feed would if fed at a higher rate. Since a lot of super low NSC feeds are also super low in digestible energy, there is a temptation to feed them at a higher rate. Some horse owners fall into the trap of feeling that a low NSC feed is safe to be fed at any feeding level. I am certainly not saying that low NSC feeds are bad. I believe in keeping the NSC amount realistic to the horses needs and ability to digest properly. I am only saying that you as a horse owner need to understand how the entire diet works. Just remember, it is the contribution to the diet, not the percentage number that is important.
makes sense. I am feeding well below the rate. For my senior pony I just want something to go along with his soaked mush. For the other horse 1/2#, it is just a snack more or less.
Are you considering switching from your Purina Sr to this for your old pony? Laura's daddy is thinking about trying to get the BB in our area, so I am very interested in your results with the pony. The only one of my six that has special needs is Dan, and he came out of winter way way too thin. I've changed his feed routine a touch after talking to Mr Winn, and I've added Forco from Nevertooold to see if we can get some weight on. . . So please keep us posted on how you like it compared to the Purina Sr. | |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Chandler's Mom - 2018-05-01 6:26 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2018-05-01 7:15 PM winwillows - 2018-04-23 3:07 PM Understanding NSC levels in horse feed can be a little confusing. The percentage of NSC in a feed is not as important as how much NSC is contributed to the diet based on how much of a certain feed is fed. A 10% NSC feed provides 54 grams of NSC per pound fed. If you were to feed five pounds of it per day, that would mean that 270 grams of NSC is delivered into the digestive system from feeding that product. If you feed a 25% NSC feed (contributes 113 grams per pound fed), but only feed two pounds per day, the total NSC contributed to the diet would be 227 grams. So, in that case, the higher NSC feed, fed at a lower rate, would contribute less NSC to the diet than the super low NSC feed would if fed at a higher rate. Since a lot of super low NSC feeds are also super low in digestible energy, there is a temptation to feed them at a higher rate. Some horse owners fall into the trap of feeling that a low NSC feed is safe to be fed at any feeding level. I am certainly not saying that low NSC feeds are bad. I believe in keeping the NSC amount realistic to the horses needs and ability to digest properly. I am only saying that you as a horse owner need to understand how the entire diet works. Just remember, it is the contribution to the diet, not the percentage number that is important. makes sense. I am feeding well below the rate. For my senior pony I just want something to go along with his soaked mush. For the other horse 1/2#, it is just a snack more or less. Are you considering switching from your Purina Sr to this for your old pony? Laura's daddy is thinking about trying to get the BB in our area, so I am very interested in your results with the pony. The only one of my six that has special needs is Dan, and he came out of winter way way too thin. I've changed his feed routine a touch after talking to Mr Winn, and I've added Forco from Nevertooold to see if we can get some weight on. . . So please keep us posted on how you like it compared to the Purina Sr.
Yes! I am just now into the 2nd bag. The smell is so much better than the Purina (which I would still feed if the Bluebonnet deal falls through), but this BB is just so much better smelling. It looks fresh and no dust like powder. The pellets look dark like they are fresh alfalfa just made. He really scarfs it up and still looks good. I am only feeding about 2# in the am and 2# at night. I guess he weighs 650ish. I like the idea of the ingredients behind it (and I am usually not a big supporter of bagged feeds). http://bluebonnetfeeds.com/intensify-technology/ | |
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      Location: Arkansas | wyoming barrel racer - 2018-05-01 9:10 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-05-01 6:26 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2018-05-01 7:15 PM winwillows - 2018-04-23 3:07 PM Understanding NSC levels in horse feed can be a little confusing. The percentage of NSC in a feed is not as important as how much NSC is contributed to the diet based on how much of a certain feed is fed. A 10% NSC feed provides 54 grams of NSC per pound fed. If you were to feed five pounds of it per day, that would mean that 270 grams of NSC is delivered into the digestive system from feeding that product. If you feed a 25% NSC feed (contributes 113 grams per pound fed), but only feed two pounds per day, the total NSC contributed to the diet would be 227 grams. So, in that case, the higher NSC feed, fed at a lower rate, would contribute less NSC to the diet than the super low NSC feed would if fed at a higher rate. Since a lot of super low NSC feeds are also super low in digestible energy, there is a temptation to feed them at a higher rate. Some horse owners fall into the trap of feeling that a low NSC feed is safe to be fed at any feeding level. I am certainly not saying that low NSC feeds are bad. I believe in keeping the NSC amount realistic to the horses needs and ability to digest properly. I am only saying that you as a horse owner need to understand how the entire diet works. Just remember, it is the contribution to the diet, not the percentage number that is important. makes sense. I am feeding well below the rate. For my senior pony I just want something to go along with his soaked mush. For the other horse 1/2#, it is just a snack more or less. Are you considering switching from your Purina Sr to this for your old pony? Laura's daddy is thinking about trying to get the BB in our area, so I am very interested in your results with the pony. The only one of my six that has special needs is Dan, and he came out of winter way way too thin. I've changed his feed routine a touch after talking to Mr Winn, and I've added Forco from Nevertooold to see if we can get some weight on. . . So please keep us posted on how you like it compared to the Purina Sr.
Yes! I am just now into the 2nd bag. The smell is so much better than the Purina (which I would still feed if the Bluebonnet deal falls through), but this BB is just so much better smelling. It looks fresh and no dust like powder. The pellets look dark like they are fresh alfalfa just made. He really scarfs it up and still looks good. I am only feeding about 2# in the am and 2# at night. I guess he weighs 650ish. I like the idea of the ingredients behind it (and I am usually not a big supporter of bagged feeds). http://bluebonnetfeeds.com/intensify-technology/
I'm really excited to hear more from your trial period! I know Miss Roxie has bragged on it as long as I've been on here, so it's sounding more and more like something I'd be interested in. . . . | |
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