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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | cloverleaf - 2018-06-03 4:03 PM You’re right, Streakysox, and Three Bars was TB as well- I think he had a pretty positive influence on the QH breed. I was really thinking more along the lines of ranch horses and cowboys when I posted earlier. I guess my post did come off a bit snarky.
My Dad's Heart horse had Three Bars on his top side and Top Moon on his bottom side. He had more TB than anything but was only registered AQHA. I loved the way he was bred but you could tell he was more TB built than QH. We had to spend many summers with him in the pasture in order to get him to stop biting calves on the neck when dad was trying to rope them in the arena. He was bred to run, not work cattle. But he was grity. He was smart. He had no manners at all but everyone who knew him loved him. Only horse I've ever seen my dad bond with. He's buried at our family ranch. Never have I ever seen my Daddy spend so much money on burying a horse before. Jack is the only horse to this day to have gotten a headstone.
I say all that to say this: Diversity is what keeps AQHA alive in my book. I may not agree with every horse inducted but that's not up to me to decide. Jack wasn't bred to work cattle or ranch, he was bred to run. But he was built like a brick house and loved working cattle so that's what he did instead. I understand this is only one example but I am sure there are thousands more just like him: Horses that have broken the sterotypes of their pedigrees.
AQHA may have a weak pulse right now to some, but they still have good ones that have yet to be recognized. I think if the Hall of Fame has taught us anything it's that any horse can be an influencer no matter the pedigree. Without influences from others, where would we be as a breed? | |
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| IRunOnFaith - 2018-06-05 9:19 AM
cloverleaf - 2018-06-03 4:03 PM You’re right, Streakysox, and Three Bars was TB as well- I think he had a pretty positive influence on the QH breed. I was really thinking more along the lines of ranch horses and cowboys when I posted earlier. I guess my post did come off a bit snarky.
My Dad's Heart horse had Three Bars on his top side and Top Moon on his bottom side. He had more TB than anything but was only registered AQHA.I loved the way he was bred but you could tell he was more TB built than QH. We had to spend many summers with him in the pasture in order to get him to stop biting calves on the neck when dad was trying to rope them in the arena. He was bred to run, not work cattle. But he was grity. He was smart. He had no manners at all but everyone who knew him loved him. Only horse I've ever seen my dad bond with. He's buried at our family ranch. Never have I ever seen my Daddy spend so much money on burying a horse before. Jack is the only horse to this day to have gotten a headstone.
I say all that to say this: Diversity is what keeps AQHA alive in my book. I may not agree with every horse inducted but that's not up to me to decide. Jack wasn't bred to work cattle or ranch, he was bred to run. But he was built like a brick house and loved working cattle so that's what he did instead. I understand this is only one example but I am sure there are thousands more just like him: Horses that have broken the sterotypes of their pedigrees.
AQHA may have a weak pulse right now to some, but they still have good ones that have yet to be recognized. I think if the Hall of Fame has taught us anything it's that any horse can be an influencer no matter the pedigree. Without influences from others, where would we be as a breed?
I would say that Three Bars was probably the most influential thoroughbred in the QH industry. He was certainly bred to a lot of QH mares and produced a lot of very diversified horses from Impressive in halter to Doc Bar who was a cutting producer. Three Bars certainly changed that discipline. Many, many of his get made quite Note--Impressive never raced and Doc Bar never was a cutting horse. | |
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| SKM - 2018-06-03 4:59 PM streakysox - 2018-06-03 2:33 PM SKM - 2018-06-03 2:46 PM I’ve had the pleasure of watching both Zippos Mr Good Bars and Vital Signs Are Good perform in the flesh. Both were spectacular! While pleasure might not be my cup of tea, I can appreciate a talented horse that is a gorgeous mover. Vital Signs Are Good was in a class all by herself. Her ability to change a lead was beautiful to watch. She was by far one of my favorite show horses of all times. Zippos Mr Good Bar was also beautiful to watch move. The quarter horse has become a specialized breed in every event. Barrels are no different. We’ve bred them to do a specific job and do it very well. But none of them could get anything done in a show pen now. The days of what the original QH was bred to originally do have long since passed. That doesn’t mean we can’t appreciate the ones that are truly magnificent in the area they excel in. Isn't diversity what makes the quarter horse industry interesting? Most of the people on here are way too young to remember the days when we went to AQHA shows and rode in everything and were good at everything. Ok, back to modern times, check the pedigree of PERKS ADVANTAGE AQHA world champion in Jr Barrels. His bottom side is almost all pleasure/halter breeding. His mother is double bred IMPRESSIVE (no, Impressive was never raced ). Certainly not what I would pick for a barrel horse but don't judge what a horse can or can not do too quickly. This horse belongs to a friend and though he is retired due to a major injury, his pleasure breeding certainly didn't keep him from winning some major events. If any horse has made a big contribution to the Quarter Horse industry they need to be in the Hall of Fame. Note that Trippy Dip is not even a Quarter Horse I had a pretty awesome show horse in my youth days named Soar With The Wind. He had multiple Championships, superiors in halter, pleasure, western riding, trail, horsemanship, showmanship. We rarely showed him English, but when we did he usually won. I have an ‘87 model with points in something like 10 events standing in my pasture named Debits And Credits. Conclusive actually sired some really nice barrel horses. There was another really big halter sire that had a winning barrel horse. I’ll have to think of the name. A little girl had him and did extremely well. It wasn’t Temon.....the stallion had a one word name but I’m drawing a blank...
Ugg . . Temon . . who should have been named Demon!! I handled a son of his that took 2 pitch forks to clean his stall - one for the poop and one to keep the stallion from eating me. | |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | streakysox - 2018-06-05 9:46 AM IRunOnFaith - 2018-06-05 9:19 AM cloverleaf - 2018-06-03 4:03 PM You’re right, Streakysox, and Three Bars was TB as well- I think he had a pretty positive influence on the QH breed. I was really thinking more along the lines of ranch horses and cowboys when I posted earlier. I guess my post did come off a bit snarky. My Dad's Heart horse had Three Bars on his top side and Top Moon on his bottom side. He had more TB than anything but was only registered AQHA.
I loved the way he was bred but you could tell he was more TB built than QH. We had to spend many summers with him in the pasture in order to get him to stop biting calves on the neck when dad was trying to rope them in the arena. He was bred to run, not work cattle. But he was grity. He was smart. He had no manners at all but everyone who knew him loved him. Only horse I've ever seen my dad bond with.
He's buried at our family ranch. Never have I ever seen my Daddy spend so much money on burying a horse before. Jack is the only horse to this day to have gotten a headstone.
I say all that to say this: Diversity is what keeps AQHA alive in my book. I may not agree with every horse inducted but that's not up to me to decide.
Jack wasn't bred to work cattle or ranch, he was bred to run. But he was built like a brick house and loved working cattle so that's what he did instead. I understand this is only one example but I am sure there are thousands more just like him: Horses that have broken the sterotypes of their pedigrees.
AQHA may have a weak pulse right now to some, but they still have good ones that have yet to be recognized. I think if the Hall of Fame has taught us anything it's that any horse can be an influencer no matter the pedigree. Without influences from others, where would we be as a breed?
I would say that Three Bars was probably the most influential thoroughbred in the QH industry. He was certainly bred to a lot of QH mares and produced a lot of very diversified horses from Impressive in halter to Doc Bar who was a cutting producer. Three Bars certainly changed that discipline. Many, many of his get made quite Note--Impressive never raced and Doc Bar never was a cutting horse.
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      Location: Arkansas | IRunOnFaith - 2018-06-05 9:19 AM
cloverleaf - 2018-06-03 4:03 PM You’re right, Streakysox, and Three Bars was TB as well- I think he had a pretty positive influence on the QH breed. I was really thinking more along the lines of ranch horses and cowboys when I posted earlier. I guess my post did come off a bit snarky.
My Dad's Heart horse had Three Bars on his top side and Top Moon on his bottom side. He had more TB than anything but was only registered AQHA.I loved the way he was bred but you could tell he was more TB built than QH. We had to spend many summers with him in the pasture in order to get him to stop biting calves on the neck when dad was trying to rope them in the arena. He was bred to run, not work cattle. But he was grity. He was smart. He had no manners at all but everyone who knew him loved him. Only horse I've ever seen my dad bond with. He's buried at our family ranch. Never have I ever seen my Daddy spend so much money on burying a horse before. Jack is the only horse to this day to have gotten a headstone.
I say all that to say this: Diversity is what keeps AQHA alive in my book. I may not agree with every horse inducted but that's not up to me to decide. Jack wasn't bred to work cattle or ranch, he was bred to run. But he was built like a brick house and loved working cattle so that's what he did instead. I understand this is only one example but I am sure there are thousands more just like him: Horses that have broken the sterotypes of their pedigrees.
AQHA may have a weak pulse right now to some, but they still have good ones that have yet to be recognized. I think if the Hall of Fame has taught us anything it's that any horse can be an influencer no matter the pedigree. Without influences from others, where would we be as a breed?
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