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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-06-12 6:36 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 6:22 PM You guys keep harping on using ACE 1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse .. The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime …. Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right answers in their 4H manuals … lol

Not a very proper way to be wording this. 
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euchee
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Posted 2018-06-12 7:13 PM
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 You seem to be a very cruel person.  Don't know the original poster so I'm not going to speculate on their experience or knowledge.  People with your kind of reply's are what keep people from coming around this place.  I haven't been here for awhile and you have reminded me why.  Have a great evening
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FLITASTIC
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Posted 2018-06-12 8:59 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 4:22 PM

You guys keep harping on using ACE

1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse ..

The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis
wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime ….

Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so
let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right
answers in their 4H manuals … lol


A little research is needed on your part here..........
1cc ace has been all that some of my horses have needed to really take the edge off without them losing their legs as they say. As for Sce causing penis paralysis , my performance horse vet said the ONLY time this has ever happened is to fully developed stallions in trailer hauling situations and there have only been a few isolated cases at that.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2018-06-12 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: Oral Sedative? All natural options?



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euchee - 2018-06-12 7:13 PM

 You seem to be a very cruel person.  Don't know the original poster so I'm not going to speculate on their experience or knowledge.  People with your kind of reply's are what keep people from coming around this place.  I haven't been here for awhile and you have reminded me why.  Have a great evening

Thank goodness the good responses on here almost always outweigh the tacky. . . .
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-06-13 6:40 AM
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I have had good luck with ace on feed for recip mares we cant get near.

Editing to add that I have given ace to some WHACKED OUT horses and it did not make them worse.... had a mare in a halter (3yo, 1100lbs that was dragging the poor man on the end of the lead rope all over my round pen. (He was dropping her off- yay projects). I was merely trying to swap halters on her and everything I got close, she bolted and drug him. I just took the need off my 3cc of ace and squirt it in her mouth. Took the edge off enough to manage her bolting but did not make her stop. She was 16.2 and 1100lbs though. She could have handled a lot more ace PO than that.

I will agree with some here that I dont think an OTC herbal yada yada is going to do the trick. Those are for "tame" horses.

Edited by RoaniePonie11 2018-06-13 6:47 AM
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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2018-06-13 1:40 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 6:22 PM

You guys keep harping on using ACE

1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse ..

The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis
wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime ….

Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so
let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right
answers in their 4H manuals … lol


I asked my vets about the issue with the retracter muscle and both said in their lifetimes they've never heard of a horse actually having long term effects from Ace. One is more of a farm vet and the other is the lameness and surgical expert for our province.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-06-13 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: Oral Sedative? All natural options?



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RunNitroRun - 2018-06-13 1:40 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 6:22 PM You guys keep harping on using ACE 1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse .. The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime …. Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right answers in their 4H manuals … lol
I asked my vets about the issue with the retracter muscle and both said in their lifetimes they've never heard of a horse actually having long term effects from Ace. One is more of a farm vet and the other is the lameness and surgical expert for our province.

My vets have tolded me if the ace is being abused/using over and over and over and with a large amount used then there could be a problem but used just a few times and lightly then I would not worry about it.
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kylee501
Reg. May 2017
Posted 2018-06-13 4:33 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 6:22 PM You guys keep harping on using ACE 1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse .. The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime …. Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right answers in their 4H manuals … lol

Just going to tell you this is why people get so discouraged in the barrel racing world as well as the horse industry period, its because of people like YOU! 
I myself am greatful I take nothing to heart and can easily brush things off, but to make my point clear I am 24 years old and have a family full of cowboys and grew up all my life doing this, my late uncle personally worked and showed Poco Bueno.  
Just recently I have been told by several people how great my horsemanship skills are because of the way I have trained and tuned several of my own and they are truly impressed.  So thank you for your response but it was not needed on my post :


**Update for everyone else that has replied, we took him into the round pen last night and made tremendous steps toward being able to touch him. He was cool calm and collected the whole time, never tried to get anxious or nervous. This was all WITHOUT any kind of sedative. Progess is being made!! 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-06-13 4:39 PM
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kylee501 - 2018-06-13 4:33 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 6:22 PM You guys keep harping on using ACE 1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse .. The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime …. Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right answers in their 4H manuals … lol
Just going to tell you this is why people get so discouraged in the barrel racing world as well as the horse industry period, its because of people like YOU! 
I myself am greatful I take nothing to heart and can easily brush things off, but to make my point clear I am 24 years old and have a family full of cowboys and grew up all my life doing this, my late uncle personally worked and showed Poco Bueno.  
Just recently I have been told by several people how great my horsemanship skills are because of the way I have trained and tuned several of my own and they are truly impressed.  So thank you for your response but it was not needed on my post :


**Update for everyone else that has replied, we took him into the round pen last night and made tremendous steps toward being able to touch him. He was cool calm and collected the whole time, never tried to get anxious or nervous. This was all WITHOUT any kind of sedative. Progess is being made!! 
So good to hear about the progress    Did you get to doctor his head?  
Edited for my spelling 


Edited by Southtxponygirl 2018-06-13 4:42 PM
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kylee501
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Posted 2018-06-13 4:42 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-13 4:39 PM
kylee501 - 2018-06-13 4:33 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 6:22 PM You guys keep harping on using ACE 1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse .. The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime …. Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right answers in their 4H manuals … lol
Just going to tell you this is why people get so discouraged in the barrel racing world as well as the horse industry period, its because of people like YOU! 

I myself am greatful I take nothing to heart and can easily brush things off, but to make my point clear I am 24 years old and have a family full of cowboys and grew up all my life doing this, my late uncle personally worked and showed Poco Bueno.  

Just recently I have been told by several people how great my horsemanship skills are because of the way I have trained and tuned several of my own and they are truly impressed.  So thank you for your response but it was not needed on my post :





**Update for everyone else that has replied, we took him into the round pen last night and made tremendous steps toward being able to touch him. He was cool calm and collected the whole time, never tried to get anxious or nervous. This was all WITHOUT any kind of sedative. Progess is being made!! 
So good to hear about the progess    Did you get to doctor his head?  

He is slowly starting to get curious about what I'm doing and why I won't leave him alone. I wasn't able to hold his attention long enough to put anything on his head, but I will be doing the same thing today and hopefully he will stay there long enough for me to do something!  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-06-13 4:43 PM
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kylee501 - 2018-06-13 4:42 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-13 4:39 PM
kylee501 - 2018-06-13 4:33 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-06-12 6:22 PM You guys keep harping on using ACE 1 cc isn't going to do anything even for a calm horse .. The other situation is ACE can leave a crazy acting male horse with his penis wiggle wagging outside his sheath for a lifetime …. Looks like our amateur has now become the bronc buster of all time so let her do her thing with her mentor and maybe they will find the right answers in their 4H manuals … lol
Just going to tell you this is why people get so discouraged in the barrel racing world as well as the horse industry period, its because of people like YOU! 
I myself am greatful I take nothing to heart and can easily brush things off, but to make my point clear I am 24 years old and have a family full of cowboys and grew up all my life doing this, my late uncle personally worked and showed Poco Bueno.  
Just recently I have been told by several people how great my horsemanship skills are because of the way I have trained and tuned several of my own and they are truly impressed.  So thank you for your response but it was not needed on my post :


**Update for everyone else that has replied, we took him into the round pen last night and made tremendous steps toward being able to touch him. He was cool calm and collected the whole time, never tried to get anxious or nervous. This was all WITHOUT any kind of sedative. Progess is being made!! 
So good to hear about the progess    Did you get to doctor his head?  
He is slowly starting to get curious about what I'm doing and why I won't leave him alone. I wasn't able to hold his attention long enough to put anything on his head, but I will be doing the same thing today and hopefully he will stay there long enough for me to do something!  
How bad did the the wound look?  

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2018-06-13 4:45 PM
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2018-06-13 5:09 PM
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 So happy you are having improvement!!!
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Chandler's Mom
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Posted 2018-06-13 6:58 PM
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Good news
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kylee501
Reg. May 2017
Posted 2018-06-14 9:38 AM
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It's really not bad at all, when it happened he didn't bleed or anything like that he just took the hair off. I just want to put something simple on it to keep the flys off.  
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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2018-06-14 11:18 AM
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 so glad for the progress update. That's always such a great feeling!
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